2933820
turbotax icon
cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 
Announcements
Close icon
Do you have a TurboTax Online account?

We'll help you get started or pick up where you left off.

anca
Level 2

Pre-tax to Roth money coded wrong - what do I do now?

Hi,

 

I was a participant in an Employee Stock Ownership Plan with a former employer and the employer terminated the plan last year.  While the money in the ESOP was pre-tax, I took the option to roll it over into my ROTH IRA.

 

The company holding the ESOP did not take any taxes out and say that they did their part correctly and that the 1099-R they sent me is correct (Box 2a Taxable amount shows $0.00).  The company who received the money did not take any taxes out, say that they coded it wrong, and that there is nothing they can do.

 

So, I would appreciate any guidance on what I should do next.  

 

Thank you!

x
Do you have an Intuit account?

Do you have an Intuit account?

You'll need to sign in or create an account to connect with an expert.

5 Replies
DaveF1006
Expert Alumni

Pre-tax to Roth money coded wrong - what do I do now?

Yes, it should have been taxed immediately since it was rolled over to a Roth IRA. Since no taxes were taken out, you are responsible for paying those taxes on your tax return.

 

I can't advise you on tax remedies in this situation because there are none but you may seek legal advise to find out if there were due diligence requirements that should have been made by your former employer.

**Say "Thanks" by clicking the thumb icon in a post
**Mark the post that answers your question by clicking on "Mark as Best Answer"
anca
Level 2

Pre-tax to Roth money coded wrong - what do I do now?

Hi Dave,

 

I was worried you were going to say that.  If this falls under the purview of what you can answer, I have two follow up questions.

 

1.  Does Turbo Tax have any product or service that would be able to help me do the necessary tax paperwork so that I can pay those taxes with my tax return?

 

2. And what does it mean that there are no tax remedies in this situation?

 

Thank you so much, anca

DaveF1006
Expert Alumni

Pre-tax to Roth money coded wrong - what do I do now?

It depends. I say that there are no tax remedies because when you roll a pre-taxed plan into a Roth IRA, you do need to pay taxes on the distribution because the Roth can only be funded with after-tax money, no exceptions.

 

As far as Turbo Tax providing necessary paperwork for you to pay taxes, if this event happened in 2022, Turbo Tax will automatically calculate the taxes owed.  So once you enter all of your income, deductions, tax payments from W2's etc, you program will calculate your return from all of these sources and determine if you receive a refund or owe taxes. You may be surprised if you do receive a refund despite all this. Just remember, 

 

just remember, your 1099R income is all inclusive in your tax return and is accounted for in your 2022 tax return.  No other paperwork is required.

 

if this happened in 2023, there are ways to report your estimated tax payments by making quarterly payments. First you might calculate what your taxes will be and then split them up in quarterly payments. 

 

Once you've calculated your quarterly payments.

 

  • You can submit them online through the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System.
  • You can also pay using paper forms supplied by the IRS.
  • When you file your annual tax return, you'll pay the balance of taxes that weren't covered by your quarterly payments.

Generally, Turbo Tax doesn't automatically generate these forms unless your 2022 return reveals the following:

 

  • You expect to owe at least $1,000 in tax for the current tax year after subtracting your withholding and refundable credits. In this case, if you owed more than a $1000 this year on your return.
  • You expect your withholding and refundable credits to be less than the smaller of:
    • 90% of the tax to be shown on your current year’s tax return, or
    • 100% of the tax shown on your prior year’s tax return. (Your prior year tax return must cover all 12 months.)

@anca 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

**Say "Thanks" by clicking the thumb icon in a post
**Mark the post that answers your question by clicking on "Mark as Best Answer"
anca
Level 2

Pre-tax to Roth money coded wrong - what do I do now?

Hi Dave,

 

The event happened in 2022.  But I don't know how to make Turbo Tax understand it went from pre-tax to post-tax without the correct taxes taken out.

 

When I entered the info I got in the 1099R into TurboTax, the amount of tax owed didn't change.  Box 1 has the total distribution, but Box 2a shows $0.  And even though I select Yes when Turbo Tax asks me if this went into a ROTH, the tax amount doesn't change. 

 

Looking at the worksheet generated by Turbo Tax for the 1099R, field B8 - which ask for previously taxed contributions - shows the entire amount, instead of what is accurate - which is $0. 

 

So, I don't know what to do with this.  Ask for a corrected 1099R? Have a different form to fill out in Turbo Tax? Something else???

 

Any assistance would be much appreciated.  Thank you again, anca

 

 

DaveF1006
Expert Alumni

Pre-tax to Roth money coded wrong - what do I do now?

Change Box 2a from 0 to the amount that is reported in Box 1. That will make the 1099R taxable like it should be. 

 

What was the distribution code in Box 7?

 

@anca 

**Say "Thanks" by clicking the thumb icon in a post
**Mark the post that answers your question by clicking on "Mark as Best Answer"

Unlock tailored help options in your account.

message box icon

Get more help

Ask questions and learn more about your taxes and finances.

Post your Question