how can I input a LT capital gain from line 9a on a k-1 that is passive income so it flows to the 8582?
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According to the Internal Revenue Service, capital gains are not considered passive income. The Internal Revenue Service strictly defines passive income to include only a few revenue streams, and the election to treat capital gains as passive income does not exist.
above is from Zacks.
Capital gains refers to funds received from selling an appreciating asset, like a house or a portfolio of stocks. Passive income informally refers to making money without doing much work, but the Internal Revenue Service has its own definition of passive activity that refers to earnings from specific types of activities, including renting out property. Generally, capital gains and passive activity are treated differently for tax purposes, even though letting an asset appreciate over time is, in the plain sense of the term, a passive activity.
above is from POCKETSENSE
Here is the most common example: A person has some rental properties (passive income). He sells one of the properties at a gain. That would be a passive capital gain.
If the taxpayer had suspended passive losses from other rental properties that were being carried over, that passive gain could offset some of those suspended losses.
if the capital gain was passive the partnership should have included it on line 11I with a notation passive
as you can see there are differing opinions. so in Turbotax, you would have to override or change the reporting from 9a to 11i. this would void the Turbotax accuracy guarantee. if you use overrides for 8582, you will not be able to e-file.
other will probably comment
Did you not enter the K-1 in the K-1 entry section ? That should be all you need to do for all the info to flow to the correct forms automatically.
To enter a K-1 go to
Federal Taxes Tab ( Personal in the H&B versions )
Wages and Income
Choose Explore on my own or I'll choose what to work on (if it comes up)
Then scroll way down to Business Items
S-corps, Partnerships, and Trusts. Schedules K-1, Q - Click the Start or Update button
Be sure to pick the right kind of K-1. There are 3 kinds, 1041, 1065 & 1120S
Normally would agree but in the supporting schedules of the K-1 under Passive Activity Analysis some of the gain from Box 9a LT Cap Gain is noted as may represent passive income. Since I have some passive losses I would really like to use it but agree it is confusing.
Also found this digging around.
Capital gains are typically portfolio and not passive. But if you have gain from the disposition of a passive activity (eg sale of rental property) than this is considered a passive gain.
Appreciate your taking the time to respond. This investment is incredible complicated.
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