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Form 8938 (FATCA) Reporting Threshold: Is it okay to remove duplicate funds (transferred from one account to another) to test against reporting threshold?

We are married filing jointly and as per IRS provided info, the Form 8938 (FATCA) reporting threshold for us is "more than $150K in foreign assets at any time during the year" OR "more than $100k on the last day of the year". 

Let us say,  I have an Account A with $90K and another Account B with $5K. During the year I transfer $80K from Account A to Account B, so that at the end of year, we have (assuming no other inflow or outflow): Account A = $10K and Account B = $85K. So total value at the end of year= $10K + $85K = $95K  (which is less than the 'end of the year' $100K requirement).

However, my question is how does  the "more than $150K at any time during the year" test work. In the above example, did we cross the $150K threshold during the year. In my opinion, the answer is NO, but looking for informed opinion. Some folks have suggested that I should add the maximum value of each account ($90k + $85K) in the year to check against the during-the-year threshold. But this seems wrong to me as the amounts are being double-counted. What do you think?

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pk
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Form 8938 (FATCA) Reporting Threshold: Is it okay to remove duplicate funds (transferred from one account to another) to test against reporting threshold?

All monies transferred between accounts is counted only once ( either at the transferred out account or at transferred into account -- same thing for roundtrip between accounts ) for the  max  value test or the year end value test.  Please consider visiting  www.irs.gov  and  search for form 8938 or FATCA  reporting requirements. It has examples  on how to deal with these situations. If you need more help, please comment

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pk
Level 15
Level 15

Form 8938 (FATCA) Reporting Threshold: Is it okay to remove duplicate funds (transferred from one account to another) to test against reporting threshold?

All monies transferred between accounts is counted only once ( either at the transferred out account or at transferred into account -- same thing for roundtrip between accounts ) for the  max  value test or the year end value test.  Please consider visiting  www.irs.gov  and  search for form 8938 or FATCA  reporting requirements. It has examples  on how to deal with these situations. If you need more help, please comment

coolhead
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Form 8938 (FATCA) Reporting Threshold: Is it okay to remove duplicate funds (transferred from one account to another) to test against reporting threshold?

Thanks. Unfortunately, the IRS website instructions for 8938 does not call this issue out clearly. However the common-sense literal meaning of the specified reporting threshold "total value of all assets more than $150K at any time during the year" will seem to validate your opinion (as the sum total value of all assets does not change if one transfers money from one account to another on a given day). But given the draconian penalties, just wanted to be certain. Thanks again.

Form 8938 (FATCA) Reporting Threshold: Is it okay to remove duplicate funds (transferred from one account to another) to test against reporting threshold?

I'm in the exact same situation. My funds are getting double counted due to inter account transfers even though I'd have breached the reporting thresholds without the transfers.

But, with transfers, the amounts are going to be wrongly inflated. This issue has been nicely addressed in the context of FBAR in this article.

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