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Level 2
October 13, 2022
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Form 4868

  • October 13, 2022
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Guys - does IRS care a lot about 100% accuracy with form 4868 in section 'estimate of total tax liabiilty for 2020' or not really? I had filed for free and was off by quite a bit but they still accepted the extension - just wondering if that's the norm
Also, I am finalizing everythign but think I owe 12,000 - does that mean late payment penalty will be 1% per month or $120 for 6 months or $720 ? Thank you
 
From IRS instructions - The late payment penalty is usually ½ of 1% of any tax (other than estimated tax) not paid by the regular due date of your return, which is April 15, 2021. It’s charged for each month or part of a month the tax is unpaid.

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holtaboyAuthor
Level 2
October 13, 2022

Actually I have to 1/2 that number so net late payment penalty will be $360?

Critter-3
Level 15
October 13, 2022

Filing the 4868 only helps relieve you of the failure to timely  file penalty and has no bearing on the failure to PAY penalty.  

Level 15
October 13, 2022

According to the instructions for Form 4868, if you file Form 4868 by the regular due date, at least 90% of the tax shown on your filed tax return was paid by the regular due date and the remaining balance is paid with your tax return filed by the extended due date, the IRS will consider this reasonable cause to waive the underpayment penalty that would otherwise apply to the period covered by the extension.

 

In this case, if you owe and pay $6,000 with your tax return, to avoid an underpayment penalty the tax liability shown on your filed tax return would have to be at least $60,000 with the rest paid by the regular due date, otherwise you would have to provide some other reasonable cause for the IRS to waive the penalty. 

Critter-3
Level 15
October 14, 2022

There is the failure to file penalty,  failure to pay penalty and the Underpayment penalties and the IRS can apply any or all of them to the same return.   Filing the extention only gets you extra time to file however if you don't pay a required amount with the extension the other penalties can be added. 

 

Read the rules on page 2 of the extension form: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4868.pdf

Read the rules on all penalties here :  https://www.irs.gov/payments/penalties

 

holtaboyAuthor
Level 2
October 14, 2022

Do I have to file an extension to file in NYS my home state too or the IRS notifies NYS? Thanks