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My wife and I filed a joint return on time back in April 2022. A family member of mine paid an accountant to do his taxes. He was told to file "married filing separately". His return was significantly higher by doing this. So a friend of ours tried this as well with his accountant. He found the same thing to be true. This return was also much larger by filing "married filing separately".
So I would like to, if possible, amend my joint return into 2 separate returns. I stumbled on one post on this site that said you can't do this once a joint return is accepted. IS THIS TRUE? So I'm not really able to amend my return inside the 3 year window?
I was hoping that I could log into the software and change a few settings and it would quickly change it over for me to show me what filing the other way would do, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I called Turbo Tax and I was told that I would need to file 2 separate returns. I wasn't told that I couldn't do it because the IRS won't accept it though.
Please help.
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Once the filing deadline has passed you cannot switch from MFJ to 2 separate returns. And if the separate returns are done correctly they are not usually better than filing jointly. The time to look was before you filed the return not after. Going forward, use the downloaded version of the program where you can use the MFJ vs MFS tool in the FORMS mode.
You can't switch from a joint to separate returns after the filing deadline. This is normally April 15, but could be as late as October 15, but only if you filed the extension request before April 15.
(The reason is that when you sign a joint federal return, you are agreeing to take full joint and several liability for all the income and deductions reported on the joint return for both spouses. Once you agree to accept full liability, the IRS won't let you back out. When you file separately, you are only taking liability for your tax facts, and not your spouse's.)
In most cases, you will owe more federal tax by filing separately. It is very rare that you will owe less, and there are one or two common mistakes a tax preparer might make that would create a falsely large refund, and when the IRS catches them, they will recompute the tax and send them a bill. (We can discuss these errors if needed.)
There are some cases where filing separately will cause you to owe more federal tax but less state tax, so you end up with a net benefit of filing separately. This was true of my wife and myself in New York State several years ago, because of differences in where the break points between lower and higher tax brackets were set. But you need to make sure you are following all the rules for filing separately. There are many federal deductions and credits that are reduced or completely disallowed when filing separately.
Hard to believe MFS was better. Here's some things to consider about filing separately……
In the first place you each have to file a separate return, so that's two returns. And if you are using the Online version that means using 2 accounts and paying the fees twice.
Many people think they come out better when filing Married Filing Separate but they are probably doing it wrong. If one person itemizes deductions on Schedule A then the other one must itemize too, even if it's less than the standard deduction, even if it is ZERO! (Business expenses are not itemized deductions. Business goes on Schedule C not A.)
And there are several credits you can't take when filing separately, like the
EITC Earned Income Tax Credit
Child Care Credit
Educational Deductions and Credits
And contributions to IRA and ROTH IRA are limited when you file MFS.
Also if you file Married Filing Separately up to 85`% of your Social Security becomes taxable right away even with zero other income.
See …….
@VolvoGirl wrote:
Hard to believe MFS was better. Here's some things to consider about filing separately……
It was worth a few hundred to me in the oughties, thanks to NYS's bizarre tax brackets and the fact that our kid was out of college and we had 403bs instead of IRAs. But generally, that will be uncommon.
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