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Brad999
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Interest Adjustments

How do you handle more than one interest adjustment in TurboTax.  I have bond amortization and accrued interest.

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Interest Adjustments

OK......could be simple, could be more complex.

 

1) IF you only have (say) Muni bond interest to report, the Muni interest goes in box 8 of a 1099-INT , and the amortized premium amount goes in box 13.  (can be total of all Munis at one financial Institution).  Then on a follow-up page, there is a box to check to indicate you have an adjustment to make.....and continuing on to the next page, you enter the $$ amount about the accrued interest you paid, and select the accrued interest reason from the dropdown menu.   

 

The Financial institution you hold those bonds in should already show the box 8 and box 13 values on the 1099-INT they will issue to you sometime in the next 3 or 4 weeks, and you only need to enter the accrued interest on the follow-up page.

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Complications for the Software:

2)  If the 1099-INT you receive has Muni interest in box 8, and ALSO has any $$ in boxes 1, and/or 3, along with the box 8 $$....then you will need to remove the box 8 and box 13$$ from that 1099-INT, and create a NEW 1099-INT, as-if from the same Financial provider (manual entry), that reports just the box 8, 13, and accrued interest on it's own 1099-INT.

 

WHY?   The problem is the "accrued Interest" entry.   If any accrued interest is entered for (say) a Muni Bond, on a 1099-INT, and that 1099-INT contains a mix of box 1, 3, & 8 $$, then the accrued interest is improperly applied proportionally among those boxes, when it is only supposed to go against the box 8 $$.

 

3) Same thing for the other bond types for boxes 1, or 3 when reported on a single 1099-INT....if any of those bond types need to subtract accrued interest you paid to the seller....those boxes (box 1 & 11 $$$ or box 3 &12  $$$ ) would need to be pulled out and reported on a separate 1099-INT.

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Final Complication:

4)  You can only subtract the amortized premium and accrued interest in the tax year you actually get a first interest payment from that bond....so sometimes you just have to write those values down and claim them the next tax year.

____________*Answers are correct to the best of my knowledge when posted, but should not be considered to be legal or official tax advice.*
Brad999
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Interest Adjustments

Thank you.  Great response and very clear to me now.  One more question - if I have accrued interest of $1000 and the interest payment for the year is only $500, do I use $500 in each year or wait and use all $1000 in the next year?

 

Thanks again.

Interest Adjustments

I'm not sure that could ever happen...but yeah, no more than the $$ you receive from that particular bond for that tax year.

 

I can imagine it might happen occasionally with amortized premium paid Plus accrued interest.

.....but just for accrued interest you paid to the seller...having trouble seeing how that could happen.

 

____________*Answers are correct to the best of my knowledge when posted, but should not be considered to be legal or official tax advice.*
Brad999
Returning Member

Interest Adjustments

Good point.  The interest payment can't be less than the accrued interest for a single bond.   But if you bought two bonds with accrued interest and only one paid interest between when you bought it and the end of the year, I think it's possible.

Interest Adjustments

Not for that situation

You need to keep track of them separately (I use a spreadsheet).

For the bond that pays something that year, you can enter the accrued interest for that one.

 

(Ignoring Amortized Premium)

Two 10k muni bonds bought in 2023...both pay $200 semiannualy....$400 each/full yr

Muni Bond A): You bought in Sept ($150 accrued interest) with only one interest payment ($200) made to you in Nov.

Muni Bond B) You bought in Nov with it's own $150 accrued interest, but first interest payment comes to you in Feb of 2024.

 

Sure, that's $300 of total accrued interest for bonds you bought, but you only claim the $150 from the one that paid interest to you,

 

Your 1099-INT would show only the $200 from A in box 8 , and you have, and can make an accrued interest claim for $150 of accrued interest to report on that one only.. 

 

Since you didn't get an interest from bond B in 2023, the other $150 Accrued interest claim won't be claimed by you for Muni bond B until you do 2024 taxes in 2025...and you'd be getting two x $200 payments from that bond alone in 2024 to cover that. 

(plus 2 X $200 for bond A in 2024...but accrued interest is gone for that one... amortized premium may remain until first call date)

____________*Answers are correct to the best of my knowledge when posted, but should not be considered to be legal or official tax advice.*

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