Form 5405, I have no idea how to fill this form out. I don't have any of the information due to relocation.

[MarilynG1]

@Littlebit196868  Per Champ @Opus17:

"If you sold the home in a year before 2020, the interview will not let you make a $500 payment and it will kick you out. This is because you were required to file form 5405 in the year that you sold the home to report the sale. In most cases, you will owe a full repayment of the remaining credit, unless you sold the home for a loss."

Since you sold the home in 2011 at a loss, you can skip entering Form 5405 in 2020.  Save your Sale Records that show you sold the home at a loss.

It's too late to Amend your 2011 return to report the sale. 

Click this link for more info on How to Remove Form 5405. 

[Opus 17]

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@Littlebit196868 wrote:

I am try to fill out form 5405! I bought a home on 03/14/2008 for 221,000.00 and had to short sell the home and was bought on 11/02/2011 and it sold for 154,000.00 so as you can see I had a loss I received the 7,500.00 and have paid 2000.00 of it back! So how do I fill out this form! Help!

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You were required to report the sale on your 2011 tax return using form 5405 at that time.  If it was a short sale, you owed no additional payments after that time.

If you did file form 5405 in 2011, then you have never owed a repayment, and you should not have told a tax preparer or Turbotax to make a payment.  You may be able to amend to get a refund of excess payments (see below).

If you never filed form 5405 in 2011, then the IRS still thinks you owe a payment.  You need to file an amended return for 2011 that reports the short sale, even though it is too late to get a refund if one is calculated.  You can't e-file for 2020 if the IRS thinks you owe a payment, so you will have to file by mail.  The IRS may still take an extra $250 or $500 from your refund, but there is a way to get that back.  

After filing the amended 2011 return to report the sale of the home, you can file amended returns for 2017, 2018 and 2019 to claim a refund of the repayment you made in those years.  (The deadline to file the amended 2017 return is April 15, 2021, so don't sit on this.). If the IRS adjusts your 2020 refund to take out a payment, you can file an amended return to get it back, after the IRS has processed the amended 2011 return and recorded the closeout of the credit.

You will need to find a tax professional, or download the 2011 forms and instructions and prepare the amended return yourself, because Turbotax does not support software that old. 

You don't owe a payment in 2020, but you can't e-file without making a payment, so file by mail.  The IRS may even 

[Opus 17]

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@MarilynG1 wrote:

@Littlebit196868  Per Champ @Opus17:

"If you sold the home in a year before 2020, the interview will not let you make a $500 payment and it will kick you out. This is because you were required to file form 5405 in the year that you sold the home to report the sale. In most cases, you will owe a full repayment of the remaining credit, unless you sold the home for a loss."

Since you sold the home in 2011 at a loss, you can skip entering Form 5405 in 2020.  Save your Sale Records that show you sold the home at a loss.

It's too late to Amend your 2011 return to report the sale. 

Click this link for more info on How to Remove Form 5405. 

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@MarilynG1 I believe a 2011 amended return is still required to report the sale, even though no refund would be paid, if one was calculated on the amended return.   Also, the taxpayer can probably amend for 2017, 2018 and 2019 to get any excess payments back.

It might be possible to file the 2011 form 5405 as a stand-alone form, but I would want to talk to a professional about that first.  If the taxpayer doesn't close out the credit properly, the IRS will continue to think they owe a payment until the credit has been repaid in full, which is not required in the case of selling at a loss. 

[BUICK1952]

i need to ad this to my tax return 

[Critter-3]

How do I add or remove Form 5405 for the first-time homebuyer credit?

Form 5405 (Repayment of the First-Time Homebuyer Credit) figures the repayment amount (actually, an additional tax) for the 2008 First-Time Homebuyer Credit. The 5405 is also used to notify the IRS that the home was disposed of or ceased to be your main home.

Here's how to enter — or delete — Form 5405:

1. Open your return by selecting Take me to my return on the home screen.
2. On the left side menu, select Federal.
3. On the upper menu, select Deductions & Credits.
4. In the list below, select Shoe more next to Your Home.
5. Select Start or Revisit next to Homebuyer Credit Repayment.
6. On the Tell us about your homebuyer credit screen, answer Yes to the first question (it was still your main home on January 1, 2018).
   • To delete an unwanted 5405, answer Yes to the second question (it stopped being your main home). Then select Continue and answer Yes on the next screen. You're done.
7. Enter the purchase date and then select Continue.
8. Follow the onscreen instructions.

[Darbear]

S2-F1040-147

[DoninGA]

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@Darbear wrote:

S2-F1040-147

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The IRS database indicates a First Time Homebuyer Installment Payment is due for the Primary SSN

Click on Federal on the left side of the online program screen

Click on Deductions & Credits

Under Your Home

On Homebuyer Credit Repayment, click on start

[Opus 17]

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@Darbear wrote:

S2-F1040-147

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The IRS thinks you owe a repayment of the credit.

If you got the credit in 2008 and you still live in that home, you need to make a repayment.

If you never got the credit you need to file by mail and contact the Taxpayer Advocate service to remove the faulty database record.

If you got the credit in 2008 and you moved out some time in the past, your move was supposed to be reported at the time.  When you moved out, you were supposed to report the move and repay the remaining credit in full, unless there was some special circumstance.  If you reported your move out, the database may not have been correctly updated.  If you never reported moving out, you may need to file an amended return, and you may have been overpaying your credit since then.  You would need to post more specific details so we can assist.