I'm trying to figure out how I can deduct or write off all of the expenses including mortgage interest, insurance, repairs, utilities, etc.... The courts awarded my ex husband (from years ago) to sign over his house to me in March 2023. It is 5000 sq ft fully hoarded to the ceilings. I had to catch up the mortgage and it has taken me this long to get it cleaned up and hopefully I will get it listed for sale March 2024. It will be over a year. I don't know if I can list it as a rental property as I never rented it or if it needs to be listed as a second home. Also I am not really sure how to document how I acquired it on turbotax. Do I just mark that I purchased it March 2023 and mark the market value as of that time? Is there a tax break on capital gains for investment vs second home? I have had to put a lot of money into maintaining this home ($3000 per month house payment) and thousands into cleanup, repair and improvements trying to get it ready for sale. Thanks for help
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1041
Your adjusted basis should be the adjusted basis in the hands of your ex-husband plus any improvements you made after the transfer.
Given the scenario you presented here, you should probably seek guidance from a local tax professional.
You cannot report the house as a rental property since you apparently never made it available for rental use.
However, you may be able to treat the property as investment property if you never used the property for personal purposes after the transfer.
Unfortunately, the investment expenses incurred (if property is treated as an investment) would be miscellaneous itemized deductions on Schedule A and those deductions have been eliminated, for the 2018-2025 tax years, by tax reform (the TCJA).
It's unclear from the way you phrased the question, if this was your marital home as well (that happened to only be titled in your spouse's name), or if the court awarded you a property that was never your home. If this was your home that you lived in together, then you are overthinking the problem.
If you lived in the home as your main home before the divorce, and it was awarded to you as part of a property settlement as a result of the divorce, then you would report this as "Sale of your home" in Turbotax. The date acquired would be the date your spouse purchased the home. Your cost basis would be what your spouse paid for the home, plus whatever you and your spouse might have paid for permanent improvements. You are probably eligible to exclude the first $250,000 of capital gains from taxation. (see the special rules for divorced taxpayers on page 4 of publication 523 https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf )
Mortgage interest and property taxes that you paid are deductible as a schedule A itemized deductions (how much tax benefit you receive depends on your other tax facts). Utilities, insurance and repairs are never deductible on your personal home. Improvements add to the cost basis and reduce your capital gains.
Treating this as the sale of a second home, or as an investment property, would only (maybe) be correct if you never lived in the home as your main home and the court awarded you a random house your ex owned instead of cash, as part of the property settlement.
@tagteam wrote:
Unfortunately, the expenses incurred (if property is treated as an investment) would be miscellaneous itemized deductions on Schedule A and those deductions have been eliminated, for the 2018-2025 tax years, by tax reform (the TCJA).
Even if the taxpayer never lived in the home as their main home, and this is treated as investment property, I believe the mortgage interest and property taxes that they paid can still be deducted as schedule A itemized deductions. Taxpayers can deduct property taxes on any property owned in the US, and they can deduct mortgage interest on their main home and one second home. The actual tax benefits of the deduction will depend on their other tax situations and the SALT cap, and I agree that any deduction for utilities, insurance, or repairs is not allowed.
@Opus 17 wrote:
@tagteam wrote:
Unfortunately, the expenses incurred (if property is treated as an investment) would be miscellaneous itemized deductions on Schedule A and those deductions have been eliminated, for the 2018-2025 tax years, by tax reform (the TCJA).
Even if the taxpayer never lived in the home as their main home, and this is treated as investment property, I believe the mortgage interest and property taxes that they paid can still be deducted as schedule A itemized deductions.
That is correct and I revised the quoted statement to include the word "investment" before "expenses".
It was a joint property with my ex husband. In 2015 we divorced and he was awarded the property. My name however was never removed from the deed. Then in 2023 he fell behind on the payments so the courts made him sign over the house to me. I haven't rented it because it needed so much work. I am hoping it will be done in the next couple months to put on the market.
@dillingerwa wrote:
It was a joint property with my ex husband. In 2015 we divorced and he was awarded the property. My name however was never removed from the deed. Then in 2023 he fell behind on the payments so the courts made him sign over the house to me. I haven't rented it because it needed so much work. I am hoping it will be done in the next couple months to put on the market.
I still think this fits the rules in the first paragraph of the divorce rules in publication 523, even though the extended time frame makes it confusing.
If you were separated or divorced prior to the sale of the home, you can treat the home as your residence if:
You are a sole or joint owner, and
Your spouse or former spouse is allowed to live in the home under a divorce or separation agreement and uses the home as his or her main home.
From 2015 to 2023 you were a joint owner (name on the deed, condition 1) and your ex was allowed to use the home as their main residence (condition 2).
Beginning with the date of transfer to you, when you are sole owner and not using the home as your main home, starts the 3 year clock on the 5-year rule. What that means is that, you are considered by the divorce rule to own the home and use the home as your main residence, from the date of your marriage to the date your ex was forced out. After that date, you are no longer considered to use the home as your main home, meaning that as long as you sell within 3 years of the date of the transfer, you can exclude the first $250,000 of capital gains from tax, and any capital gains above that will be long term capital gains taxed at 15%.
When you report the sale, use the date your ex bought the house as the acquisition date. For purchase price, what Turbotax really wants to know is your adjusted cost basis. That is the original purchase price, plus the cost of any permanent improvements you or your ex made. A list of typical improvements is found in IRS publication 523 beginning on page 8. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf
Repairs, utilities and insurance are not deductible and do not adjust the cost basis. Mortgage interest you paid (but not the principal) can be deducted on schedule A, and property taxes that you paid (including any arrears) can also be deducted on schedule A, up to the $10,000 cap for all state and local taxes.
From your sales price, you can deduct certain costs of selling as adjustments (reductions) in the selling price, such as your real estate commission and maybe certain county or state taxes and fees, also discussed in publication 523. That will lower your taxable capital gains.
"Staging" is an allowable reduction in selling price (it is considered an advertising expense) but only so long as no changes are made to the house. Any changes or modifications are considered repairs and are not deductible and not adjustments to basis. This should mean that if you hire a company to haul away all the junk in the house, that is an allowable selling expense. If you hire a staging company and you rent some nice furniture for open house, that is also an allowable selling price that will reduce your capital gains. But if the company also cleans the carpets and paints the walls, that part of the staging expense is not an allowable adjustment because it changed the house. (Replacing the carpet is an improvement, see publication 523.)
Thank you so much!
@Opus 17 wrote:
I still think this fits the rules in the first paragraph of the divorce rules in publication 523, even though the extended time frame makes it confusing.
I agree that the extended time frame does make it confusing and not having knowledge or expertise with respect to this scenario, @dillingerwa should seek guidance from a local tax professional and/or legal counsel because, for one thing, the extended time frame could kick it out of the Section 1041 purview (6 years).
I think it still fits because in section 1041 A-7 it states the 6 year rule would also start from an amendment or modification. "A divorce or separation instrument includes a modification or amendment to such decree or instrument. " The court order in March 2023 was an amendment to the original divorce decree.
Look out. You're correct about the fact that your scenario involves an "amendment or modification", but note that the Reg states the requirement in the conjunctive (i.e., "and").
So, the transfer must be pursuant to a divorce or separation instrument (including a modification or amendment) and the transfer must occur within 6 years after the date on which the marriage ceases. Otherwise, there is a presumption that the transfer is not related to the cessation of the marriage.
However, that presumption is rebuttable which is primarily the reason I suggested you consult with a local tax professional or legal counsel.
It may also be relevant that the taxpayer has been on the deed all along, so at most, a half-ownership share was transferred in 2023 and not the whole thing.
@dillingerwa , was full ownership transferred to you and did you pay your ex (buy them out)? Or was full ownership transferred with no payment (your ex was simply kicked out for failing to maintain the property)? Or were you granted the right to occupy and sell the house, but your ex is still on the deed and will receive some of the sales proceeds?
It also appears that section 1041 (no gain or loss recognized on transfer between spouses incident to a divorce) is not linked to section 121 (the exclusion for sale of a principal residence). Even in the case where dillingerwa "bought out" her ex, and even if section 1041 is not applicable, then the ex might owe capital gains tax on the buyout, and the buyout would change dillingerwa's basis, but I think dillingerwa would still be allowed to use the capital gains exclusion for sale of a personal home, as long as the sale is completed within 3 years of the transfer.
I certainly wouldn't disagree with a professional review of the facts.
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