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Can I have charitable donations made directly from my pre-tax retirement accountsl (457B, 403(B), etc.) accounts and have it reduce my income for tax purposes?

All my retirement accounts are pre-tax.  I am required to take RMDs this year (over 70 1/2).  I know charitable donations made directly from IRA accounts can reduce your stated income for tax purposes, but not sure if that includes pre-tax accounts?

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Can I have charitable donations made directly from my pre-tax retirement accountsl (457B, 403(B), etc.) accounts and have it reduce my income for tax purposes?

No. A qualified charitable distribution (QCD) can only be made from IRAs. Money in employer-sponsored retirement plans such as 401(k)s and 403(b)s is not eligible for QCDs.

Per IRA FAQs - Distributions (Withdrawals), "Generally, a qualified charitable distribution is an otherwise taxable distribution from an IRA (other than an ongoing SEP or SIMPLE IRA) owned by an individual who is age 70½ or over that is paid directly from the IRA to a qualified charity. See Pub. 590-B, Distributions from Individual Retirement Arrangements (IRAs)) for additional information."

dmertz
Level 15

Can I have charitable donations made directly from my pre-tax retirement accountsl (457B, 403(B), etc.) accounts and have it reduce my income for tax purposes?

You can have the 457(b) plan or 403(b) plan make the payment directly to the charity, but it won't be a QCD.  It will be no different that the plan making the distribution to you and then you writing a check to the charity.  You'll be able to claim a charitable contribution deduction on Schedule A, but you cannot exclude the distribution from income the way you could with a QCD from an IRA.
Scott_Sa
New Member

Can I have charitable donations made directly from my pre-tax retirement accountsl (457B, 403(B), etc.) accounts and have it reduce my income for tax purposes?

Tho technically correct, the answer is misleading.  You CAN use QCD to reduce your taxes (if you are 70 1/2 or older):

* Say you are withdrawing $50,000/year from pre-tax IRA for living expenses

* Say you contribute $5000/year to a charity

* You are paying, assuming 20% income tax bracket, $1000 tax on that $5000 of your withdrawals that went to a charity

* IF, instead, you withdraw $45,000/year for living, and do a QCD to your charity, you have saved the $1000 in taxes that you would have otherwise paid on that extra $5000.

Can I have charitable donations made directly from my pre-tax retirement accountsl (457B, 403(B), etc.) accounts and have it reduce my income for tax purposes?


@Scott_Sa wrote:

Tho technically correct, the answer is misleading.  You CAN use QCD to reduce your taxes (if you are 70 1/2 or older):

* Say you are withdrawing $50,000/year from pre-tax IRA for living expenses

* Say you contribute $5000/year to a charity

* You are paying, assuming 20% income tax bracket, $1000 tax on that $5000 of your withdrawals that went to a charity

* IF, instead, you withdraw $45,000/year for living, and do a QCD to your charity, you have saved the $1000 in taxes that you would have otherwise paid on that extra $5000.


First, that's a 7 year old discussion you are replying to.

 

Second, you can't do a QCD from a non-IRA account.

 

Something everyone has missed is that a person could do a rollover from the 403b or 457 to an IRA, and then do the QCD from the IRA.  But you can't do a QCD directly from a qualified workplace plan.  

dmertz
Level 15

Can I have charitable donations made directly from my pre-tax retirement accountsl (457B, 403(B), etc.) accounts and have it reduce my income for tax purposes?

The original question was asked in 2019, when RMD age was 70½.  In that year the RMD for the qualified retirement plan would have to have been satisfied before rolling any amounts over to an IRA

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