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jlubben
Returning Member

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

Can someone give mechanical instructions on how to enter a self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders in TurboTax.  Using Easy step only allows you to enter a number if it you have a business with a schedule C.  Using Forms will not allow mechanical entering of a number on Schedule 1. Thank you!

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jlubben
Returning Member

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

If the business is a partnership or an S-Corp, you will enter the self-employed health insurance at the end of the K-1 entry section. 

DavidS127
Expert Alumni

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

As you enter your K-1 from the S corp into your individual TurboTax, you will encounter the "Other Situations" screen.  On that screen, your check the "I personally paid health insurance..............." question.  When you check that box, on the next screen you will get a box to enter your Medicare Wages (box 5 of your W-2) from This S Corporation.   If you got your insurance from the Marketplace, don't enter the medical insurance premiums, they are already in TurboTax from your 1095-A entry.  Otherwise, when you enter your W-2 box 5 wages in that box and the amount of health insurance reported on your W-2 in the next box, your self-employed health insurance deduction should calculate correctly.

 

Note that if you meet the test for a "more than 2% shareholder" (including the spouse of a more than 2% shareholder), you should receive a W-2 from the S Corp that includes in box 1 wages your portion of health insurance premiums and that same amount in box 14 of the W-2.  The W-2 will not report box 3 or box 5 wages for the health insurance premiums, however, because this compensation is not subject to payroll taxes. Note that your S Corp deducts your health insurance paid as wages.  If the S Corp did not "cut the check" for the health insurance, it is supposed to reimburse you for the payments you made from your personal funds in order for you to qualify for the self-employed health insurance deduction.

 

To find the place to enter  or edit your K-1, click the "magnifying glass Search" icon on the top row, enter "k-1" in the search window and press return or enter, and then click on the "Jump to k-1" link to begin entry of the Schedule K-1 you “received” from your S corp.

 

 Here are the screens you look for to enter your self-employed health insurance amounts:

 

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paulpaulpaul
New Member

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

Any suggestions for entering the SE Health deduction when the attribution rules for family members applies and the family member has no ownership ie. no Sch K-1 ? Thanks in advance!

Critter-3
Level 15

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

What "family members" are you referring to ?   Your dependents ?   

 

If they are not a 2% owner or better and do not get a K-1  then they are not eligible for the SEHI deduction. 

paulpaulpaul
New Member

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

Let's say children, grandchildren, and parents....

This states that yes, they are entitled to the SE Health deduction, even when they don't have a Sch K-1, but their Box 1 wages amount includes the cost of health insurance....
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-wd/[removed].pdf

Office of Chief Counsel
Internal Revenue Service
Memorandum
Number: [removed]

CONCLUSION
An individual who is a 2-percent shareholder of an S corporation pursuant to the attribution of ownership rules under § 318 is entitled to the deduction under § 162(l) for amounts that are paid by the S corporation under a group health plan for all employees and included in the individual’s gross income, if the individual otherwise meets the requirements of § 162(l)

paulpaulpaul
New Member

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

Office of Chief Counsel
Internal Revenue Service
Memorandum
Number: [removed]
Release Date: 3/22/2019
CC:TEGE:EB
PRESP-131029-18
UILC: 162.00-00, 162.35-00
date: December 21, 2018
to: Daniel C. Munce
Associate Area Counsel
Small Business/Self-Employed
from: Stephen Tackney
Deputy Associate Chief Counsel (Employee Benefits)
CC:TEGE:EB
subject: Health Insurance Costs of Employee Family Members of 2-Percent Shareholders
This Chief Counsel Advice responds to your request for assistance. This advice may
not be used or cited as precedent.
ISSUE
Whether an individual who is a 2-percent shareholder of an S corporation pursuant to
the attribution of ownership rules under § 318 of the Internal Revenue Code is entitled
to the deduction under § 162(l) for amounts that are paid by the S corporation under a
group health plan for all employees and included in the individual’s gross income, if the
individual otherwise meets the requirements of § 162(l).
CONCLUSION
An individual who is a 2-percent shareholder of an S corporation pursuant to the
attribution of ownership rules under § 318 is entitled to the deduction under § 162(l) for
amounts that are paid by the S corporation under a group health plan for all employees
and included in the individual’s gross income, if the individual otherwise meets the
requirements of § 162(l).
PRESP-131029-18 2
FACTS
An individual owns 100% of an S corporation, which employs the individual’s family
member. The family member is considered to be a 2-percent shareholder pursuant to
the attribution of ownership rules under § 318. The S corporation provides a group
health plan for all employees, and the amounts paid by the S corporation under such
group health plan are included in the family member’s gross income.
LAW AND ANALYSIS
Section 1372(a) provides that, for purposes of applying the income tax provisions of the
Code relating to employee fringe benefits, an S corporation shall be treated as a
partnership, and any 2-percent shareholder of the S corporation shall be treated as a
partner of such partnership. For purposes of § 1372, the term “2-percent shareholder”
is any person who owns (or is considered as owning within the meaning of § 318) on
any day during the taxable year of the S corporation more than 2 percent of the
outstanding stock of such corporation or stock possessing more than 2 percent of the
total combined voting power of all stock of such corporation. Section 1372(b). Section
318(a)(1) provides that an individual shall be considered as owning the stock owned,
directly or indirectly, by or for (i) his spouse (other than a spouse who is legally
separated from the individual under a decree of divorce or separate maintenance), and
(ii) his children, grandchildren, and parents.
Accident and health insurance premiums paid or furnished by an S corporation on
behalf of its 2-percent shareholders in consideration for services rendered are treated
for income tax purposes like partnership guaranteed payments under § 707(c) of the
Code. Rev. Rul. 91-26, 1991-1 C.B. 184. An S corporation is entitled to deduct the cost
of such employee fringe benefits under § 162(a) if the requirements of that section are
satisfied (taking into account the rules of § 263). The premium payments are included
in wages for income tax withholding purposes on the shareholder-employee’s Form W2, Wage and Tax Statement, but are not wages subject to Social Security and Medicare
taxes if the requirements for exclusion under § 3121(a)(2)(B) are satisfied. See
§ 3121(a)(2)(B); Ann. 92-16, 1992-5 I.R.B. 53. The 2-percent shareholder is required to
include the amount of the accident and health insurance premiums in gross income
under § 61(a). Notice 2008-1, 2008-2 I.R.B. 251.
Section 106 provides an exclusion from the gross income of an employee for employerprovided coverage under an accident and health plan. A 2-percent shareholder is not
an employee for purposes of § 106. Treas. Reg. § 1.106-1; section 1372(a).
Accordingly, the premiums are not excludible from the 2-percent shareholderemployee’s gross income under § 106. Notice 2008-1.
Section 162(l)(1)(A) allows an individual who is an employee within the meaning of §
401(c)(1) to take a deduction in computing adjusted gross income for amounts paid
during the taxable year for insurance that constitutes medical care for the taxpayer, his
PRESP-131029-18 3
or her spouse, and dependents. The deduction is not allowed to the extent that the
amount of the deduction exceeds the earned income (within the meaning of § 401(c)(2))
derived by the taxpayer from the trade or business with respect to which the plan
providing the medical care coverage is established. Section 162(l)(2)(A). Also, the
deduction is not allowed for amounts during a month in which the taxpayer is eligible to
participate in any subsidized health plan maintained by an employer of the taxpayer or
of the spouse of the taxpayer. Section 162(l)(2)(B).
A 2-percent shareholder-employee in an S corporation, who otherwise meets the
requirements of § 162(l), is eligible for the deduction under § 162(l) if the plan providing
medical care coverage for the 2-percent shareholder-employee is established by the S
corporation. Rev. Rul. 91-26, 1991-1 C.B. 184. A plan providing medical care coverage
for the 2-percent shareholder-employee in an S corporation is established by the S
corporation if: (1) the S corporation makes the premium payments for the accident and
health insurance policy covering the 2-percent shareholder-employee (and his or her
spouse or dependents, if applicable) in the current taxable year; or (2) the 2-percent
shareholder makes the premium payments and furnishes proof of premium payment to
the S corporation and then the S corporation reimburses the 2-percent shareholderemployee for the premium payments in the current taxable year. If the accident and
health insurance premiums are not paid or reimbursed by the S corporation and
included in the 2-percent shareholder-employee’s gross income, a plan providing
medical care coverage for the 2-percent shareholder-employee is not established by the
S corporation and the 2-percent shareholder-employee in an S corporation is not
allowed the deduction under § 162(l). Notice 2008-1.
In order for the 2-percent shareholder-employee to deduct the amount of the accident
and health insurance premiums, the S corporation must report the accident and health
insurance premiums paid or reimbursed as wages on the 2-percent shareholderemployee’s Form W-2 in that same year. In addition, the shareholder must report the
premium payments or reimbursements from the S corporation as gross income on his or
her Form 1040, U.S. Individual Tax Return. Notice 2008-1.
Pursuant to the rules described above, an individual who is a 2-percent shareholder of
an S corporation pursuant to the attribution of ownership rules under § 318 is entitled to
the deduction under § 162(l) for amounts that are paid by the S corporation under a
group health plan for all employees and included in the individual’s gross income, if the
individual otherwise meets the requirements of section 162(l).
This writing may contain privileged information. Any unauthorized disclosure of this
writing may undermine our ability to protect the privileged information. If disclosure is
determined to be necessary, please contact this office for our views.
Please call [phone number removed] if you have any further questions.

AmeliesUncle
Level 13

How to enter self-employed health insurance deduction for 2% + S-corp shareholders

Enter the K-1 section (you may want to borrow your relative's K-1 so to avoid error messages) and enter $0.  But then be sure to check the 'health insurance' box and answer all of the follow up question (including the question about Box 5 of of your W-2 from the corporation).

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