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tuck0066
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Hello, My total taxable income is zero (I live abroad and can claim the foreign tax credit), but my tax liability is showing as $54 and I can't figure out why?

I do have an investment account with Schwab, but my total US income from interest & dividends is still well under the standard deduction of $14,600.
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pk
Level 15
Level 15

Hello, My total taxable income is zero (I live abroad and can claim the foreign tax credit), but my tax liability is showing as $54 and I can't figure out why?

@tuck0066  please tell me a little bit more  about the situation ;

Need approx. figures  for  Foreign gross income ( before exclusion  ), gross US sourced income, the country that is your tax home, did you participate in local Social Security equivalent ?

 

Note that generally and only for  tax liability computation, your tax is calculated based on your world income without regard to  exclusion.  Then from this tax liability ( world income ),  the allocated tax on  excluded income is subtracted, giving you the final  US tax amount.  Thus there may be some tax ( because of higher tax bracket caused  by  excluded income).

 

I will circle back once I hear from you .

tuck0066
New Member

Hello, My total taxable income is zero (I live abroad and can claim the foreign tax credit), but my tax liability is showing as $54 and I can't figure out why?

@pk  My Foreign Gross Income is roughly $126K, US sourced income is roughly 1K, tax residency is France and I do pay social security tax here.  Unless I am missing something, with taking the standard deduction, I should still owe $0, right? 

pk
Level 15
Level 15

Hello, My total taxable income is zero (I live abroad and can claim the foreign tax credit), but my tax liability is showing as $54 and I can't figure out why?

@tuck0066 ,  you are correct in that if the figures you provided  --  your gross Foreign Income is all excluded  per form 2555 and your ONLY   US income is approx. 1000, then   your  world tax liability should be zero.  I was assuming that you had some residual /un-excluded  FE income that could have resulted in a small   residual US tax liability.

Assumimng that you are using Windows download version  ( such as   Home & Business ),  and you can go into forms mode  look at  the forms involved -- 2555,  1040 and  Foreign EI tax worksheet.  These should be enough to see where TT is getting  the  "due " amount.  I would be most interested in what is wrong.

 

pk

tuck0066
New Member

Hello, My total taxable income is zero (I live abroad and can claim the foreign tax credit), but my tax liability is showing as $54 and I can't figure out why?

@pk Apologies, it took me a while to circle back!  I was finally able to finalize my return (had to pay before I could actually see it), and it says I owe $54 in net investment income tax.   But shouldn't this be zero'ed out if I take the standard deductible? 

ThomasM125
Employee Tax Expert

Hello, My total taxable income is zero (I live abroad and can claim the foreign tax credit), but my tax liability is showing as $54 and I can't figure out why?

No, the standard deduction is subtracted from your income to determine your taxable income for federal income tax. The net investment tax is a separate tax on your investment income and the standard deduction does not apply to that.  

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