In late 2023 I got my notice of excess contributions from my employer for $4,850 and the appropriate form.
I retired as of December 31 2023, and received vacation and bonus payouts, as well as a$500 addition to my HSA from my employer. I was covered by my employers retiree health insurance plan at this time.
In February, before I had a chance to do my taxes, I was in the hospital for a month, and did not get taxes going until I returned at the end of March, and I did not get a chance to remove the funds before the deadline. My total in the HSA was $24,806.
In March, I turned 65, and due to an error on my part in getting Medicare Part D so that my employer Medicare PPO would kick in, I was not covered for the month of March with ANY insurance. During that month, I accrued over $50,000 in medical bills. In May (after getting the statements for my care) I used the funds from my HSA, plus savings, to pay down the bill. There were zero funds left in the account at this point.
While doing my taxes this year, my 2024 1099-SA shows my gross distribution of $24,806 in box 1, $0 earnings in excess in box 2 While doing my 2024 taxes, and filling in the section for 1099-SA, it showed my maximum contribution limit to be $858, and pulled my $4,850 over from my 2023 return, and gave me a new excess contribution total of $4,492 that will be charged at 6%.
I do not see a selection that handles my situation in the sections below asking how I would like to handle the situation:
1 - Withdraw the excess contritbution by April 15th: There is nothing left to withdraw.
2 - Withdraw some of the excess contribution by April 15th: See above
3 - No, I'm not going to make this withdrawal: which is true, but implies I HAD a choice!
What I believe I need is an option 4 - All funds were used for medical necessity during 2024 with no funds remaining!
Do I just go ahead and use option 3? Not really sure where to go from here on the HSA item.
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I don't understand how your problem started - your employer normally doesn't know if you made excess HSA contributions, because there are things that affect your annual HSA contribution limit that your employer may not know about.
Well, no matter. Your situation is not unusual -
1. You carried over excess contributions to an HSA from previous years.
2. You've run your HSA out of cash.
3. You now are under some form of Medicare (It doesn't matter which part), so you cannot contribute anything more to the HSA.
OK, tell TurboTax that you will NOT withdraw the excess (since you can't anyway).
What will happen is this:
A. The excess will be carried over to 2025
B. You will be assessed an excise tax (penalty) of 6% of the LESSER of the excess carried over OR the value of your HSA at the end of the tax year. Of course, that is now zero.
C. See line 49 of your 5429, make sure it is now zero.
OK, this means that form 8889 will be attached to your return for the rest of your life. Unfortunately, you must file form 8889 if you made any contributions to or took any distributions from your HSA during the tax year. The excess that is carried over counts as a contribution, because TurboTax is going to try to use it as a personal contribution (line 2, 8889) in the next year.
This is a silly situation that, so far as I know, the IRS has never specifically addressed.
If you don't care that the 8889 is attached to your return, then do nothing, since it will not cost your anything in additional tax. Personally, I might be inclined to go into your list of forms (Forms mode in CD/download) or Tax Tools->Tools->Delete a Form in Online) and just delete the 8889.
The only other thing that I wonder about is this situation about your employer telling you that you had excess contributions. As I said, the employer shouldn't know that, because they can't be sure of what your calculated annual HSA contribution limit is.
Do you mind telling us if you has Family or Self HDHP coverage in 2023, and what your code W amount was, and if you made any direct HSA contributions (i.e., not through your employer)? It not too late to amend your 2023 return if we find an error.
I don't understand how your problem started - your employer normally doesn't know if you made excess HSA contributions, because there are things that affect your annual HSA contribution limit that your employer may not know about.
Well, no matter. Your situation is not unusual -
1. You carried over excess contributions to an HSA from previous years.
2. You've run your HSA out of cash.
3. You now are under some form of Medicare (It doesn't matter which part), so you cannot contribute anything more to the HSA.
OK, tell TurboTax that you will NOT withdraw the excess (since you can't anyway).
What will happen is this:
A. The excess will be carried over to 2025
B. You will be assessed an excise tax (penalty) of 6% of the LESSER of the excess carried over OR the value of your HSA at the end of the tax year. Of course, that is now zero.
C. See line 49 of your 5429, make sure it is now zero.
OK, this means that form 8889 will be attached to your return for the rest of your life. Unfortunately, you must file form 8889 if you made any contributions to or took any distributions from your HSA during the tax year. The excess that is carried over counts as a contribution, because TurboTax is going to try to use it as a personal contribution (line 2, 8889) in the next year.
This is a silly situation that, so far as I know, the IRS has never specifically addressed.
If you don't care that the 8889 is attached to your return, then do nothing, since it will not cost your anything in additional tax. Personally, I might be inclined to go into your list of forms (Forms mode in CD/download) or Tax Tools->Tools->Delete a Form in Online) and just delete the 8889.
The only other thing that I wonder about is this situation about your employer telling you that you had excess contributions. As I said, the employer shouldn't know that, because they can't be sure of what your calculated annual HSA contribution limit is.
Do you mind telling us if you has Family or Self HDHP coverage in 2023, and what your code W amount was, and if you made any direct HSA contributions (i.e., not through your employer)? It not too late to amend your 2023 return if we find an error.
Hi Bill - Thanks for the response!
You are correct - it was not my employer, it was the 1099-SA from HealthEquity that told me.
As for the 5498, that form has not been generated yet- or at least did not come up in the forms search. However, form 5329-T - Additional Taxes on Qualified Plans - DOES show a zero amount for additional tax on line 49.
My coverage was a Self HDHP and the code W amount was $4850. If you mean by sending in non -payroll money's directly to my HSA, the answer is no. I only had the automatic deductions form the amount I worked out with the online calculator when we signed up for the plan. it told us the max that we could put in for the year, and I usually just calculated it out and divided by 26 paychecks. But what probably threw the monkey wrench in it was that we had a decent bonus that year, so additional was contributed from that separate check, as we never knew what the bonus would be until just before it hit.
As for ammending my return - I have never done that before, so will take any suggestions on it!
I appreciate your response and will move forward with the return as is unless you suggest differently!
"But what probably threw the monkey wrench in it was that we had a decent bonus that year, so additional was contributed from that separate check, as we never knew what the bonus would be until just before it hit. "
If you were still working, I might suggest to the HR department that they talk to employees about this. because overcontributing can be a hassle, and, as you say, you have no way of planning for it (unless the company policy would be to take no HSA contributions out of bonuses).
Still, this explains why you had an excess in 2023, so no need to amend 2023.
The 5498-SA comes from your HSA custodian. However, it is for your records only because you don't enter any part of it into your tax return.
So it sounds like you can continue with your 2024 return. You can make the choice to delete the 8889 or not...and maybe some day, the IRS will address this situation.
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