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lee644-
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Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

 
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TomD8
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Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

You definitely need to file in MI.  MI can tax all your income until the day you began living in TX.

You also need to file a non-resident VA return if your VA adjusted gross income exceeds the filing threshold for your filing status.  Here are the 2017 VA filing thresholds:

Single ..................$11,950

Married filing a joint return (both must  have Virginia Source Income) ............................$23,900

Married, spouse has no income from  any source ..........$11,950

Married filing separately (on separate  forms) ..................$11,950


TX does not have a personal income tax.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.

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TomD8
Level 15

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

You definitely need to file in MI.  MI can tax all your income until the day you began living in TX.

You also need to file a non-resident VA return if your VA adjusted gross income exceeds the filing threshold for your filing status.  Here are the 2017 VA filing thresholds:

Single ..................$11,950

Married filing a joint return (both must  have Virginia Source Income) ............................$23,900

Married, spouse has no income from  any source ..........$11,950

Married filing separately (on separate  forms) ..................$11,950


TX does not have a personal income tax.

**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
traveler1
New Member

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

What is the Virginia AGI though?  Is that your whole AGI for the whole year or just for the time you were in Virginia (prorated)?
TomD8
Level 15

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

For part-year Virginia residents, it is the calculated amount from line 10 of Virginia Form 760PY: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.tax.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/taxforms/individual-income-tax/2017/760py-2017.pdf"...>
**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
traveler1
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Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

Thanks!  What about for Virginia nonresidents?  Are you a nonresident if you didn't live there but only went there for a short time for training?  Or are you actually a part-year resident in that case?  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.tax.virginia.gov/residency-status">https://www.tax.virginia.gov/residency-status</a> makes it sound like you're not a part-year resident if you weren't ever intending to be a resident, but the nonresident filing doesn't seem quite applicable either.
TomD8
Level 15

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

If you were in Virginia temporarily for work or school, and your domicile (your permanent home) is in another state, you are a non-resident of Virginia.  Virginia can tax non-residents on income from physically working in Virginia, unless they are residents of a reciprocal state.
If you moved your domicile into or out of Virginia during the tax year, you are a part-year resident of Virginia.
Here's a link to the non-resident VA tax return form:  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.tax.virginia.gov/sites/default/files/taxforms/individual-income-tax/2017/763-2017.pdf">h...>
**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
traveler1
New Member

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

Thanks.  Yes, that is my situation -- domicile in another state, but in Virginia temporarily for work or school.  However, when I went through the nonresident instructions I didn't see the same calculation for VAGI (i.e. AGI minus money you made outside Virginia).  If that is what VAGI means, and my amount is < $11,950, then I don't need to file nonresident at all.  In the nonresident form it looks like VAGI is basically your whole AGI, but in the part-year resident form, it looks like it's only the time you were in Virginia.  What am I missing?
TomD8
Level 15

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

Like some other states, VA determines your tax rate based on your total annual income (as if you were a VA resident), and then applies that rate to your Virginia-source income.  Page 2 of VA Form 763 shows the non-resident allocation calculation.  TT should do all these calculations for you.  Follow the instructions in this FAQ:  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901271-how-do-i-file-a-nonresident-state-return">https://ttlc.int...>
**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.
traveler1
New Member

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

Thanks for keeping on answering my questions.  I was trying to avoid filing if I didn't have to but it seems like maybe I have to.  However, I find it really odd that the "VAGI" is different if you're a part-year resident or a nonresident, according to the forms.
TomD8
Level 15

Lived in MI and got a job in TX and moved. I trained in VA first for 2 months as part of my new job. Only MI was withheld for the training. What States do I need to file

The difference is due to this:
A VA non-resident can only be taxed only on their VA-source income.
A VA part-year resident can be taxed on ALL the income acquired during their period of VA residency, regardless of its source (including, for example, dividends, interest, capital gains).
**Answers are correct to the best of my ability but do not constitute tax or legal advice.

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