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California tax - child's investment income

taxmom50,

 

The thread I remembered is

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/state-taxes/discussion/ca-nonresident-unearned-income-from-educati...

 

which gave a workaround for a similar issue, though your 529 plan question answers may obviate the need for it.

California tax - child's investment income

taxmom50,

 

I was not as sharp as I could have been yesterday.  529 funds are not scholarships or grants, so they do not count as unearned income and are not subject to the kiddie tax if they are used for qualified expenses.  They are funds the student beneficiary brings to the table.

 

That said, it still may be advantageous to count some of the $5,000 as if it were spent on unqualified expenses.  This is discussed in https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/retirement/discussion/are-non-qualified-withdrawals-from-a-529-pla... which, to briefly summarize, points out that for some parents it can be possible to obtain the American Opportunity Credit by that means, shifting, say, $2,000 to the student's income (less than the $2,100 kiddie tax threshold) and thereby treating that money as being applied to the AOC educational expenses.   Even with the 10% penalty on the $2k plus, of course, income tax on the $2k at the child's rate, the family comes out ahead with a $2k credit, 40% of which is refundable.   Of course one wouldn't do this if they already qualified for the full AOC already by having spent $4,000 out of pocket on qualified educational expenses.

taxmom50
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California tax - child's investment income

Thanks for the information. All of approximately $9,000 from the 529 plan was spent on my son's college tuition. He also worked 20-30 hours a week during the school year, so he made quite a bit of money. His 529 Plan somehow made extremely good returns, so we invested about $4,000 and Turbotax is counting the $5,000 that was reported on the 1099-Q as "unearned income". As I understand it that's because he made a lot of money this year but was still our dependent. I'm just really frustrated with the California forms and I may end up just filing by hand, as I can't seem to find a workaround to California wanting my California tax return when I am no a Califonia resident, did not earn money there and will not be filing taxes there.

California tax - child's investment income

taxmom50,

 

Yikes, there's definitely something you haven't yet done to match the 529 distribution to qualified expenses in TurboTax.  I will fire up my copy of TT and work an example to determine the workflow.  Your income shouldn't be at all involved in your son's CA tax return.  Hold tight.

California tax - child's investment income

taxmom50,

 

According to https://ttlc.intuit.com/community/college-education/discussion/529-1099-q/00/1672586  if the 529 proceeds were applied to qualified expenses, you do not even enter the 1099-Q and delete it if you have already entered it.

taxmom50
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California tax - child's investment income

Thank you!  All of the distributions from the 529 plan were used to pay tuition AND we still had a hefty bill left after using the 529 money, so I guess I will delete the 1099-Q. Thank you so much for your help!!!

California tax - child's investment income

taxmom50,

Glad to have been of assistance.  Educational tax credits and deductions can be surprisingly complicated at times.

California tax - child's investment income

Why is the State asking for info on the parents return.  This child is not a dependent on their tax return.  Can I somehow delete that form from the State section of the 2021 return

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