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Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Hi, wondering if Turbo Tax is planning to handle both CARES 401k withdrawals and (partial) repayments (form  8915‐E) in the Premier version.  

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Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

The TurboTax software will include all the IRS procedures for reporting a CARES act withdrawal and the Form 8915-E once the IRS has approved instructions and the 2020 forms.

The TurboTax desktop CD/Download editions, to include Premier, have all the same forms, schedules and worksheets.  Help and guidance is more extensive in the higher priced editions such as Premier.

 

The TurboTax online editions have not yet been made available for tax year 2020 so it is not yet known which editions will support a CARES withdrawal and the Form 8915-E, although it is assumed that the online Premier edition will support both. 

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)


@GRogers1 wrote:

Hi, wondering if Turbo Tax is planning to handle both CARES 401k withdrawals and (partial) repayments (form  8915‐E) in the Premier version.  


Because e-fileing does not use paper forms - it transmits encrypted data in the exact format specified by the IRS/State or the IRS/State could not read it. The IRS/State first finalizes the paper form, then writes the e-file specifications and gives that to e-file providers to develop their software. Then the IRS/State must test with the e-file providers and approve the electronic forms before they can be released so that both ends are compatible. That process usually takes several weeks after the paper version has been released.

 

Currently the 8915-E paper form is still in the draft mode at the IRS so it might take a while before it becomes available in TurboTax.   Often when new forms are issued they do not get incorporated until Feb-March due to IRS delays.

**Disclaimer: This post is for discussion purposes only and is NOT tax advice. The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of any information in this post.**

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Although TurboTax may  allow you to e-filed some returns as early as 1/7/21 (IF the forms in your return are ready for filing … see info below)   they are NOT actually sent to the IRS.  TurboTax stores those early filed returns in a holding “POOL”   until the IRS opens for business and “drains the pool”  for processing ...   only then will you get an e-mail telling you if the return was accepted or rejected by the IRS.  

Only the simplest returns can be transmitted to TurboTax early.    Some forms will not be finalized until Jan 25 and some later than that.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1908854-forms-availability-table-for-turbotax-federal-products-exc...

Why does TurboTax allow early filing?  Because their competitors do - It is a marketing ploy to capture market share.

Filing early with TurboTax before the IRS opens  is a really BAD IDEA for many reasons...

1) If you discover something that is wrong on your return, receive a W-2 that is different, receive some other tax document that was not on the return that you filed then there is NOTHING that you can do about it other than wait to see if the IRS accepts or rejects the return after they open.  If rejected you can correct and file again, but if accepted then the only remedy is to amend which can take 4 months to process.

2) You must remember to check back after the IRS opens (or check for an e-mail) to confirm that the IRS has accepted or rejected the return.  If rejected, then it was never filed at all and must be corrected and re-filed.  Every year many taxpayers that file early, forget to check back and only discover months later that they never actually filed because if was rejected by the IRS but they had forgotten about checking back after filing with TurboTax.

3) While the IRS does conduct some pre-opening tests and does accept some returns early (ONLY for TESTING purposes), they will not actually  process those until after the official opening date.  There is a reason to test and that is to discover any problems with it's systems.  A couple of years ago a test went bad and several thousand "test" returns were lost.   The IRS was able to recover those but it delayed refunds for some by months.

There is no real advantage to file before the IRS opens  but there are several disadvantages to do so.

When will my forms be ready?

Historically, IRS tax forms start becoming available in January, with a few stragglers (most notably Form 1040X) getting finalized in February.

State tax forms can become available for filing any time between December and late February, depending on the state and the tax form.

For specific forms and dates, refer to the Forms Availability Table for your TurboTax product, see the related information below.

                            

Can I Still Work On My Return Before My Forms are Ready?

Yes, according to the following:

Federal Taxes
You can still work on your return and finish most of it. Once your forms become available, we’ll create the forms and include all of your info.

You’ll only be able to e-file or print your return once the forms are available.

While you’re working on your return, we’ll ask if you want to receive email updates when your forms become available.

State Taxes 
If your forms aren’t available, you’ll get a message asking you to return once they become available.

While you’re working on your return, you’ll have a chance to let us know you want to receive email updates when your forms become available.

Related Information:

           IRS Forms Availability Table for TurboTax Individual (Personal) Tax Products

·         State Forms Availability Table for TurboTax Individual (Personal) Tax Products

·         IRS Forms Availability Table for TurboTax Business

·         State Forms Availability Table for TurboTax Business

·         What does "Tax Form Under Construction" mean?

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Thank you for the quick reply.  Is it reasonable to assume partial repayments will also be handled (in addition to withdrawals)?  You can repay within 3 years and avoid the taxes you would otherwise pay on the withdrawal(s).

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Yes ... all contingencies will be handled.  

dmertz
Level 15

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

A Coronavirus-Related Distribution is a type of disaster distribution, reportable on Form 8915-E.  Online TurboTax Deluxe or higher was needed to file Forms 8915-A through 8915-D for other types of disaster distributions, so one can anticipate that the same will be true of TurboTax's support for Form 8915-E.

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

If you qualify  AND   if you wait until mid January  THEN you can use one of  the IRS FREE FILE options to file a fed & state return for free ... but you must be patient.    https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-for-free

 

IRS Free File: Closed until January 2021

 

IRS Free File is closed for the 2020 tax season. Check back in January for Filing Season 2021 opening details.

For Filing Season 2021, you must make $72,000 or below to use IRS Free File partner offers.

 

 

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

when will the 8915-e be available on turbo tax

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)


@marisa2031 wrote:

when will the 8915-e be available on turbo tax


The IRS has not informed anyone yet when the form 8915-E will be finalized.

CmVan1022
New Member

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Will we be alerted in some way when the 8915-E update is sent or updated in the software instead of us having to go back in every time to see if it is there?

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Per the IRS website, both the Instructions and Form for Form 8915-E currently do not have an updated release date.

The draft form was released 11/9/2020. Please see the Draft Instructions and Form below.

 

Form Draft Instructions: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f8915e--dft.pdf

Draft Form 8915: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f8915e--dft.pdf

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

Check a couple of times a week to see if that is updated ... since the IRS will not start processing returns until at least 2/12 we will have to be patient.   If the form is listed in the missing list in the Federal review then the option to get a email may be available but I highly doubt it will show yet. 

PattiF
Expert Alumni

Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

No. Currently, there is no way to be notified, but to find the most up to date information on our forms availability please use this link:   IRS Form Availability Form 8915-E will be added to the list when more information is available.

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Will Turbo Tax handle both CARES 401k withdrawal and repayment (form 8915‐E)

It's now February 10, 2021, has there been an update to form  8915-E and the e-filing using Turbo Tax or are we still in a holding pattern?

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