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Why is Pension Exclusion for New Jersey incorrect?

2025 desktop New Jersey is applying exclusion on "pension (ira) income" using outdated tiers although the law changed in 2018.   Now, the law says there is only a single limit at $150,000.   Will Turbotax ever fix?

 

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RogerD1
Employee Tax Expert

Why is Pension Exclusion for New Jersey incorrect?

This comes from the State of New Jersey Division of Taxation:  "You can exclude all or part of the pension income reported if you (and your spouse) were 62 or older by 12/31 (for calendar year filers); and your total income was $150,000 or less'"

 

A full exclusion of $100,000 is available if you are Married Filing Jointly and your total income is $100,000 or less

 

For Married Filing Separately, a full exclusion is available if your total income is $50,000 or less

 

For all other filing statuses, the full exclusion of the pension income is available if you total income is $75,000 or less.

 

Partial exclusions of income apply to total income levels above the previous levels given, up to $150,000.

 

Here's a link to the details of the NJ Pension Exclusion

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Why is Pension Exclusion for New Jersey incorrect?

I'm finding the NJ website (which you cite) and the NJ 1040 are not consistent:  my understanding is the 1040 applies a single threshold (cliff) for pension exclusion at income of $150,000, while the web site says there are tiered thresholds......   

BillM223
Employee Tax Expert

Why is Pension Exclusion for New Jersey incorrect?

"my understanding is the 1040 applies a single threshold (cliff) for pension exclusion at income of $150,000"

 

Could you share with us where you see this? I have to agree with Rogers that the various places on the NJ website, that there is a three-tier structure for pension exemptions. Look at the line 20 instructions in the NJ-10140 Instructions (the official instructions, although not the statute).

 

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Why is Pension Exclusion for New Jersey incorrect?

Thank you for providing the NJ instructions - - and you are correct, it is clearly shown as tiered;   My "source" was Microsoft CoPilot.   Because of TurboTax limitation in providing future year tax projections, I tried to use CoPilot, and have been going around and around with it on a number of issues, both to try to learn how to use it, and to determine whether it's worth using;   I have determined, in this case, CoPilot is harmful;    It flip flopped on this pension exclusion 4 different times....(and literally made me think I was interacting with a robot from 1973 movie "Westworld")  

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