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to convert or not to convert, that is the question


three ways to go -- which is best?

I bought a single-family home in Apr 2015 for $449,000, plus $6000 closing costs, as my primary residence.
In Sept 2019, I moved out and the house was immediately available to rent. 
On that day, the FMV was $525,000. Over those 4.5 years, I spent $51,000 for property improvements.  
I believe that makes my original Basis $506,000 (449+6+51) because that figure is lower than $525,000. 
Am I correct so far?

In June 2020, I sold the property for $525,000 less $34,000 in selling expenses.
Does that mean I have a loss of $15,000 for tax purposes ($525-34-506) ?

For 4 months in 2019, the property produced no income with $4000 in expenses.
For 6 months In 2020, the property produced $11,000 income with $3000 in expenses.
Monthly Depreciation is $1027 but that appears to wash out as recapture when the property is sold.

 

It seems to me that I have 3 options:

  1. Treat it as a 2nd home for the full 10 months, both years. Easiest accounting.
  2. Treat it as a 2nd home for 2019 and a rental property for 2020. Would lose $4000 in deductions?
  3. Treat it as a rental property for the full 10 months, both years.

I'm leaning toward #3 because all $7000 in expenses would be deductible "above the line".
I do not have enough Sch A deductions to itemize in either year.

 

The numbers are getting a bit complex and my head is beginning to hurt.
Can somebody offer some guidance? What am I not considering?

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Carl
Level 15

to convert or not to convert, that is the question

For depreciation purposes, your cost basis is the "lesser" of the FMV on the date it was placed "in service", or what you paid for it when originally purchased. Typically, what you paid for it, plus the cost of improvements will be lower than the FMV on the inservice date, plus the cost of improvements. Do not add the cost improvements to the FMV on the in service date if the FMV on the in service date already includes those improvements.  So whichever is lower is the value you must use for depreciation. Either:

Original purchase price plus property improvements or;

FMV on in service date, with improvement costs added to it only if that FMV does not already include those improvement costs.

If I understand and interpret your post correctly, your cost basis will be (must me) what you originally paid for it, plus the cost of all property improvements, since that is the lesser amount.

 

If you lived in the property for the 5 years prior to it being a rental, then I would think it was your primary residence and you would qualify for the "2 of last 5" capital gains tax exclusion (if sold at a gain). Otherwise, if you treat it as a 2nd home then you get no exclusion. (I don't think this is your case though since you sold at a loss.)

treat it as a rental property for the full 10 months, both years.

You really don't have a choice in this. Since it "was" "in fact" rental property for ten months and those months cross a calendar year, you kinda sorta "have to" treat it for what it was.

All expenses incurred starting in Sept 2019 are rental expenses for the entire time you owned it after that.

Also understand that taxation on at least "some" of your depreciation recapture may be offset if you sold at a loss.

Remember, when selling the property the cost basis for the sale is what you paid for it, plus the cost of property improvement, *MINUS* all prior depreciation taken.

 

 

 

to convert or not to convert, that is the question

EDIT:  Deleted.  Wrong information.

 

to convert or not to convert, that is the question

I don't understand.  Why would the basic be different depending whether it is a gain or a loss?

 

But, the original question was this:

Do you agree that I should treat the property as a rental for both years?

 

I've just learned that I am not entitled to capital gains treatment because the property was rented for less than 12 months.  However, because there will be a loss, I guess that doesn't matter.

 

 

to convert or not to convert, that is the question

Sorry, I misread your post and mixed things a bit (and corrected/deleted my incorrect information).  But in some cases the Basis for a gain versus a loss ARE different.  But not in your case.

 

As for your question, Carl already answered that.  It is a rental once it is ready-and-available to be rented.

Carl
Level 15

to convert or not to convert, that is the question

But in some cases the Basis for a gain versus a loss ARE different

I hate those situations too. Especially when your sales price is between what you paid for it originally, and the FMV at the time of conversion.

 

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