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Calculating deprecation for my carriage house - cost basis?

Situation:

 

Bought house for $375000 in 2016

(property is zoned for 2)

 

I built a carriage house in 2018 for about $180000. This is rented 100% of the time. The main house I live in, it's not rented. 

 

County assessor says the land is worth $61000 (weird because smaller lots sell for $300,000 , but whatever) 

 

Now I want to calculate depreciation. 

 

This situation is a bit unique because I live in one portion and rent another portion. So what is my original cost that I use for depreciation ? The $375 I originally paid? The 180K I paid to build the carriage house? Add them both together? 

 

Thanks in advance. 

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JulieS
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Calculating deprecation for my carriage house - cost basis?

You should list the carriage house as purchased in 2018. Your basis is the cost of building it. The land does not get depreciated, so its value it unimportant to the depreciation question. 

 

So, total basis for the carriage house is $241,000, and the land value is $61,000. Your basis for depreciating the carriage house is $180,000.

 

You should think of these as two separate properties. One is your home and one is a rental. Don't say that you used the property personally before it was a rental, because the rental did not exist before 2018.

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JulieS
Expert Alumni

Calculating deprecation for my carriage house - cost basis?

You should list the carriage house as purchased in 2018. Your basis is the cost of building it. The land does not get depreciated, so its value it unimportant to the depreciation question. 

 

So, total basis for the carriage house is $241,000, and the land value is $61,000. Your basis for depreciating the carriage house is $180,000.

 

You should think of these as two separate properties. One is your home and one is a rental. Don't say that you used the property personally before it was a rental, because the rental did not exist before 2018.

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Calculating deprecation for my carriage house - cost basis?

I appreciate the answer. 

 

Do you recommend I amend my 2018 taxes? I did not depreciate it on the 2018 return. 

Carl
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Calculating deprecation for my carriage house - cost basis?

Do you recommend I amend my 2018 taxes? I did not depreciate it on the 2018 return.

If the house was classified as a rental in 2018, then you *need* to amend your 2018 tax return... and it's not a recommendation as much as it is a legal requirement to depreciate the property starting on the day it was placed "in service".

The "in service" date is the first day a renter "could" have moved into the property. Then is generally the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard. Doesn't matter if it took you three months to get a renter in it either.

You "NEED" to amend the 2018 return to reflect this (if it's true) so that the "correct" numbers will be imported from your .tax2018 file into the turbotax 2019 program.

Assuming you are doing as recommended above and will be treating this as a physically separate structure with it's own physically separate land, the below information will be helpful to you so that you get it right.

I can't stress the importance of ABSOLUTE PERFECTION on the SCH E in the first year you are dealing with rental property. The tiniest of mistakes *WILL* grow exponentially as the years pass. Then when you catch your error years down the road, the cost of fixing it will be $COSTLY$. So for the 2018 tax return you will be amending to include the SCH E, perfection is not an option.... its a MUST!

If you have more questions as you do this, then by all means, ASK!

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter "could" have moved in. That should be your "in service" date if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters count also PROVIDED you did not live in the house for one single day during said period of vacancy.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence or 2nd home, after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must add "real" value to the property. In other words, when  the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

Calculating deprecation for my carriage house - cost basis?

Thanks for taking the time with this detailed response. 

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