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Because that's the way the IRS divides them on the SCH E. Line Line 7 is for "cleaning and maintenance" and line 14 is for "repairs". There is also a defined difference between the two.
RENTAL POPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED
Property Improvement.
Property improvements are expenses you incur that add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.
To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:
1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.
2) The improvement must add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.
Cleaning & Maintenance
Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not classified as cleaning/maintenance costs and are not deductible.
Repair
Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental.
Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.
However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a 2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.
Why is only a PORTION of some rental expenses deductible? It makes sense for only a portion of my annual property taxes to be deductible (for the ratio of time my home was rented out). But why would only a portion of the Utilities (the utilities paid DURING the 3-month rental period) be deductible. Those utilities were only for the renters.
What's your scenario? Was the property your primary residence and you converted it to a rental in 2021? If so, then you most likely entered the number of personal use days as being more than zero. Read that screen. What you used the property for before you converted it to a rental, does not count for anything. If you did not live in the property for one single day after you converted it to personal use, as your primary residence, 2nd home, vacation home or any other personal use, then your personal use days is ZERO and the percentage of business use is 100% (One Hundred Percent business use)
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But why would only a portion of the Utilities (the utilities paid DURING the 3-month rental period) be deductible. Those utilities were only for the renters.
TurboTax, the program, is coded to allocate certain expenses to rental use only and other expenses to allocate between rental and personal use.
For example, where there is personal use and rental use during the tax year, expenses such as advertising, auto, travel, commissions, management and legal fees are generally allocated 100% to rental use.
On the other hand, expenses such as cleaning and maintenance, insurance, utilities, repairs, taxes, et al, are allocated to rental use and personal use based on the number of personal use days during the tax year.
If your allocation differs, then you need to input the exact dollar amounts allocated to rental use into the program.
@Anonymous_ and @Carl you're the best. Thanks so much for the replies. I'm learning as I go here.
Our scenario is simple. We own ONE house (the one we live in). It's our primary (and only) residence. But we rented it out to another family for 3 months last year (while we worked remotely from my ailing grandmother's house), and then we moved back in to our house. That's it. End of story. In 2021, we lived in our house for 175 days, and the renters lived in it for 90 days.
So I'm understanding that for expenses like taxes, utilities, cleaning, repairs, etc., I really need to enter the expenses for the WHOLE year (not just the rental period). That's because TurboTax does the math to calculate the portion that is deductible from the rental income. Correct?
We also painted the entire interior of the house in preparation for renting (a $5900 expense). I notice if I enter that as a miscellaneous expense, TurboTax zeroes out some of the other expenses, like utilities. I assume that's because the total deductible expenses are exceeding the rental income. Right?
When I started the rental property wizard, TurboTax asked what type of rental it was. I selected "Single Family" and not "Vacation or Short-term." Does that seem correct, given our scenario?
Lastly, do we really need to answer all those questions in the "New Rental Property" section? It's the section that says we'll need to gather:
We bought our home 18 years ago. I can't imagine digging all that up. Please advise.
(My wife is wanting to hire a CPA, but I'm hoping we can figure this out.)
Many thanks!
You can do the math or let Turbo Tax do the math. If you want Turbo Tax to do the math, say it was part personal and part rental. If you want to do the math, say it was 100% rental and input the number of days rented, etc.
The cost used for a rental that you have lived in is the lower of fair market value or your basis. So, if you bought the house for $100k and did $30k in improvements, $130k is what you have into it. The market took off and the FMV is $400k. Your basis for the rental is the lower, $130k. Use your best judgement. Grab a paper, a pen, a spouse, and stroll down memory lane thinking of what improvements you have made.
If the IRS decides to audit you, you can dig up old pictures, neighbors, etc to help verify what you remembered. CPA or you, the answer is the same, a stroll down memory lane is the best you can do. Enjoy it!
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We also painted the entire interior of the house in preparation for renting (a $5900 expense).
That's not deductible. Maintenance and repair costs incurred to prepare the house for renting for the very first time, are just flat out not deductible. Do not confuse this with property improvements, of which painting is not.
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