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Primary Residence to Rental Confusion

Hi all. I apologize if this was covered elsewhere - I did my best to use the search and even followed some of the suggested posts while typing the subject but came up empty.

 

I purchased my condo in November 2015 and lived in it as my primary residence until April 30, 2020.  I "unofficially" converted it to a rental beginning May 1, 2021 and my tenant's lease is up June 30, 2021 at which point I am fairly certain I will sell the unit and if not, refinance as a rental property.  I do have a management company that I pay a monthly fee to process rent payments and handle any tenant issues so they have issued a 1099-MISC.

 

In the section "Was this Property Rented for All of 2020" the software says "the number of days during the year you lived in this rental property before converting it to a rental do not count as personal use.  However, when I open the Personal Use section I see personal use does not include days used as your dwelling if the unit was rented for 12 months or more. 


Question 1: I am looking to confirm that I should enter 0 as my personal use days even though I lived there as my primary residence becaause overall the lease is for 13 months total (even though it carries into 2021).

 

Question 2: Does the condo in fact qualify as an actual rental property if it has not been actually been converted, come end of June will have been rented for  only13 months of the prior 42 and may be sold. Im inclined to say yes, esp since I have been issued the 1099-MISC, but cannot seem to get a straight answer on this one.

 

Thanks in advance!
Denise

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Primary Residence to Rental Confusion

Question 1: I am looking to confirm that I should enter 0 as my personal use days even though I lived there as my primary residence becaause overall the lease is for 13 months total (even though it carries into 2021).   ONCE the property became a rental your personal use of the property is ZERO.  

 

Question 2: Does the condo in fact qualify as an actual rental property if it has not been actually been converted, come end of June will have been rented for  only13 months of the prior 42 and may be sold. Im inclined to say yes, esp since I have been issued the 1099-MISC, but cannot seem to get a straight answer on this one.  Since it is a rental for part of 2020 you must enter it on the Sch E and enter the property as an asset and take depreciation.  This is not optional but is required.  Then if you sell in 2021 then you will still have a Sch E for the time it was a rental until it is sold.    Follow the screen instructions carefully and read the blue hyperlinks for more info and/or  upgrade to the LIVE version to get one on one instructions. 

 

Primary Residence to Rental Confusion

Thank you Critter.  I am likely going to upgrade to the Live version but wanted to try to go through the exercise of following the software before I do.

 

In regards to your response, you state that ONCE the propery became a rental my personal use is ZERO.  I understand that part, thank you. The screen instructions state "the number of days during the year you lived in this rental property before converting it to a rental do not count as personal use." which implies that I would put 0 days for personal use in 2020 and 245 days for rental user (May-Dec).  I just wanted to verify that I am understanding that correctly.  After reading the Learn More and Personal User pop ups that was an area of confusion for me. Thanks again!

Carl
Level 15

Primary Residence to Rental Confusion

What you used the property for prior to May 1, which is the day you converted it to a rental property, just flat out does not count for anything. The program is asking you how many days you used the property for your personal use, *AFTER* you converted it to a rental. You have ZERO days of personal use after you converted it to a rental. You did not live in the property for one single day after May 1st, as your primary residence, 2nd home, vacation home, or any other "personal pleasure" use of any type.

Since 2020 is your first year renting out the property, and most likely (but not sure) your first time dealing with rental property, I'm offering the below just to provide further clarification on a number of things that, in my personal opinion (and we all know what opinions are like!) the program just doesn't clarify well enough. Some find it helpful. Other's finding it annoying. Take your pick.

Rental Property Dates & Numbers That Matter.

Date of Conversion - If this was your primary residence or 2nd home before, then this date is the day AFTER you moved out, or the date you decided to lease the property – whichever is later.
In Service Date - This is the date a renter "could" have moved in. Usually, this date is the day you put the FOR RENT sign in the front yard.
Number of days Rented - the day count for this starts from the first day a renter "could" have moved in. That should be your "in service" date if you were asked for that. Vacant periods between renters count also PROVIDED you did not live in the house for one single day during said period of vacancy.
Days of Personal Use - This number will be a big fat ZERO. Read the screen. It's asking for the number of days you lived in the property AFTER you converted it to a rental. I seriously doubt (though it is possible) that you lived in the house (or space, if renting a part of your home) as your primary residence or 2nd home, after you converted it to a rental.
Business Use Percentage. 100%. I'll put that in words so there's no doubt I didn't make a typo here. One Hundred Percent. After you converted this property or space to rental use, it was one hundred percent business use. What you used it for prior to the date of conversion doesn't count.

RENTAL PROPERTY ASSETS, MAINTENANCE/CLEANING/REPAIRS DEFINED

Property Improvement.

Property improvements are expenses you incur that “better” the property. Basically, they retain or add value to the property. Expenses for this are entered in the Assets/Depreciation section and depreciated over time. Property improvements can be done at any time after your initial purchase of the property. It does not matter if it was your residence or a rental at the time of the improvement. It still adds value to the property.

To be classified as a property improvement, two criteria must be met:

1) The improvement must become "a material part of" the property. For example, remodeling the bathroom, new cabinets or appliances in the kitchen. New carpet. Replacing that old Central Air unit.

2) The improvement must retain or add "real" value to the property. In other words, when the property is appraised by a qualified, certified, licensed property appraiser, he will appraise it at a higher value, than he would have without the improvements.

There are rules that allow you to just flat-out expense and deduct some property improvements, if the total cost of the improvement was less than $2,500. It’s referred to as “safe harbor di-minimis” But depending on the specific situation, this may or may not be beneficial. Just be aware that not every property improvement that cost less than $2,500 qualifies for this. If this interest you, the rules can get complex. So a good place to start reading is on the IRS website at https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations. The stuff on di-minimis starts about one page down.

Cleaning & Maintenance

Those expenses incurred to maintain the rental property and it's assets in the useable condition the property and/or asset was designed and intended for. Routine cleaning and maintenance expenses are only deductible if they are incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Cleaning and maintenance expenses incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Repair

Those expenses incurred to return the property or it's assets to the same useable condition they were in, prior to the event that caused the property or asset to be unusable. Repair expenses incurred are only deductible if incurred while the property is classified as a rental. Repair costs incurred in the process of preparing the property for rent are not deductible.

Additional clarifications: Painting a room does not qualify as a property improvement. While the paint does become “a material part of” the property, from the perspective of a property appraiser, it doesn’t add “real value” to the property.

However, when you do something like convert the garage into a 3rd bedroom for example, making a  2 bedroom house into a 3 bedroom house adds “real value”. Of course, when you convert the garage to a bedroom, you’re going to paint it. But you will include the cost of painting as a part of the property improvement – not an expense separate from it.

Primary Residence to Rental Confusion

Thank you Carl!

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