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Hi,
I sold my single-family rental property in 2019.
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unfortunately closing statements are complicated. some items are selling expenses , some are itemized deductions, some are not deductible at all
see irs publication 523
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p523.pdf
and here's another link tied into lines on HUD statement
https://support.taxslayerpro.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009170634-Closing-Cost-Deduction
any further questions post back in this tread.
the following versions of TT support home sale
Premier, Self-Employed, and TurboTax Live (Online versions) and in all personal CD/Download versions of TurboTax.
assuming your home has never been rented out, in step by step mode it will eventually ask you a question about selling your home. that's where the home sale info will be entered
in step by step mode there will be a box to enter sales expenses. click on "selling" and a list will pop up
There are also 3 1/3 % in California Franchise taxes on the gross sale price, can I add these to the basis of the house?
no. this is a withholding tax as a prepayment to Ca for the tax on the gain. when you file your Ca return this will be treated as withholding, just like state withholding on a w-2, which will reduce the balance owed or increase your refund.
@Anonymous
To make sure I understand it, are you saying that I CANNOT add the California 3-1/3% withholding to my cost basis on the Federal return?
Is this California 3-1/3% withholding expense from the settlement statement deductible in any way on the federal return? It is a tax expense after all.
Is this California 3-1/3% withholding expense from the settlement statement deductible in any way on the federal return? It is a tax expense after all.
Of course it is. Just follow the guidance below on the federal side for reporting the sale, and remember (seems I can't stress this enough to folks) *read* *the* *small* *print* on each and every screen *before* you enter data or make a selection.
Reporting the Sale of Rental Property
If you qualify for the "lived in 2 of last 5 years" capital gains exclusion, then when prompted you WILL indicate that this sale DOES INCLUDE the sale of your main home. For AD MIL personnel who don't qualify because of PCS orders, select this option anyway, because you "MIGHT" qualify for at last a partial exclusion.
Start working through Rental & Royalty Income (SCH E) "AS IF" you did not sell the property. One of the screens near the start will ahve a selection on it for "I sold or otherwise disposed of this property in 2018". Select it. After you select the "I sold or otherwise disposed of this property in 2018" you continue working it through "as if" you still own it. When you come to the summary screen you will enter all of your rental income and expenses, even it it's zero. Then you MUST work through the "Sale of Assets/Depreciation" section. You must work through each individual asset one at a time to report its disposition (in your case, all your rental assets were sold).
Understand that if more than the property itself is listed in your assets list, then you need to allocate your sales price across all of your assets. You will only allocate the structure sales price; you will NOT allocate the land sales price, since the land is not a depreciable asset. Then if you sold this rental at a gain, you must show a gain on all assets, even if that gain is $1. Likewise, if you sold at a loss then you must show a loss on all assets, even if that loss is $1
Basically, when working through an asset you select the option for "I stopped using this asset in 2017" and go from there. Note that you MUST do this for EACH AND EVERY asset listed.
When you finish working through everything listed in the assets section, if you ever at any time you owned this rental you claimed vehicle expenses, then you must also work through the vehicle section and show the disposition of the vehicle. Most likely, your vehicle disposition will be "removed for personal use", as I seriously doubt you sold your vehicle as a part of this rental sale.
It seems you disagree with @Anonymous on this California 3-1/3% withholding expense from the settlement statement.
I am confused, maybe you both are saying the same thing...
Do I add this large California 3-1/3% withholding expense from the settlement statement to the basis of the home like the other settlement expenses?
The only settlement expense I cannot add to the cost basis is the prorated county tax since it was paid when the home was for sale and no longer rented. Do you agree?
BTW, I never lived in this rental home hence I cannot take the 1-time $500K married couple deduction.
Thanks!!
The CA tax WITHHELD on the sale is NOT an expense ... it is a WITHHELD TAX and is NOT used added to the basis of the property but it IS entered as a state withholding and will affect the federal & state return accordingly.
I HIGHLY recommend you seek some professional guidance with this matter if you get confused by the program in the least and as already mentioned you must READ ALL THE WORDS ON THE INTERVIEW SCREENS ***CAREFULLY*** .... this cannot be stressed enough. If you are using the ONLINE program the upgrade to the LIVE option for personal guidance.
I do not disagree with anyone or anything in this thread. The state tax *is* deductible on your federal return. But it is "NOT" deductible as a sales expense, nor does it change your cost basis in any way, form or fashion on your federal return SCH E. Please follow the guidance provided and heed the "read the small print" part as you work this sale through the SCH E section of the federal return.
Now CA has some of the quirkiest tax laws I've ever seen. If not asked for anything concerning this on the SCH E (I don't think you will be) then you'll deal with it *OUTSIDE* of the SCH E under the deductions and credits tab in the section for "Estimates and Other Taxes Paid" when you get to that section in the program. It will be a loooong time after you complete the rental property sale, before you will get to the "estimates and other taxes paid" section.
Also be aware that as it stands as of today (dec 31, 2019) you will be unable to report the rental property sale because the Assets section of the TurboTax program *is* *not* *complete* yet. It won't be complete either, until "AFTER" congress approves tax law changes that directly affect that section, and *AFTER* the IRS implements those changes once passed by congress.
it is not part of your cost or a selling expense. to insure that the gain on the sale of the property is taxed when applicable, many states require tax be withheld at closing to cover the taxes. the tax withheld is to cover the tax on the gain, if any. if you don't have a gain or the tax is less than the 3 1/3% in theory you would get a refund. I say in theory because it is treated the same as w-2 withholding or estimated tax payments. your tax is compared to total payments. pay more than the tax liability - get a refund. pay less - you owe. you get an itemized deduction (schedule A) on the federal return for these taxes. if you can not itemize or your total taxes on schedule A exceeds $10,000 some or all of the federal benefit will be lost.
note that there is not much difference if there was none of this withholding because you would owe more when filing or get a smaller refund. about the only difference would be if you owe because that would be paid in 2020 when your tax situation might be different.
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