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al_li_2020
Level 2

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

We purchased a home as our main residence in 2011, and we were force to relocate to another state due to loss/change of jobs in 2017.  The home was then used as a rental property and managed by an agent ever since, until  year 2020 when we decided to sell it.

 

I am wondering if this sale qualifies for a partial exclusion of gain because it was related to change of jobs hundreds of miles apart, and the event occurred during our ownership and residence in the home.

 

If it does qualify for a partial exclusion, how should I claim this exclusion in Turbo Tax Premier?

 

Thank you very much for your help!

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AmeliesUncle
Level 11

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Yes, it qualifies for the Reduced Maximum Exclusion.

 

When going through the rental section all all "assets", you indicate it was sold.  It should ask you if the home was ever your main home, then say yes and answer all of the followup questions.

ColeenD3
Employee Tax Expert

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Yes, for a work related partial exclusion, you must meet these requirements.

 

Does Your Home Qualify—Details and Exceptions

Partial Exclusion May Be Available

If you don't meet the eligibility test, you may still qualify for a partial exclusion of gain if you moved because of work, health, or an unforeseeable event. You can qualify either by meeting a set of standard requirements (the “safe harbor” provisions) or by showing enough facts and circumstances to validate your claim.

 

Work-related move.

You meet the standard requirements if any of the following happened during the time you owned and lived in the home you sold:

  • You took or were transferred to a new job in a work location at least 50 miles farther from home than your old work location.
  • You had no previous work location and you began a new job at least 50 miles from home.
  • Either of the above is true of your spouse, a co-owner of the home, or anyone else for whom the home was his or her residence.
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al_li_2020
Level 2

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Thank you for the reply, but I couldn't find the place to enter that the sale of the rental property qualifies for the reduced max gain exclusion.   Also the software doesn't ask if this was ever my main home. Since I only have Turbo Tax premier, I am wondering if I need higher level of Turbo Tax product to handle this issue?

 

Thank you very much.

AmeliesUncle
Level 11

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

You are going through the rental "assets" and indicate it was sold, right?

 

When you get to the "Special Handling" screen, are you saying "no"?  If so, one of the next questions should be about your Main Home.

 

If you are saying "yes", what is the reason for the "Special Handling"?

Carl
Level 15

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

The below is "GUIDANCE ONLY" to get you pointed in the right direction. Since the home does qualify (or partially qualify) as your main residence, the below guidance will fall apart on you at some point. But it will get you going in the right direction.

Reporting the Sale of Rental Property

If you qualify for the "lived in 2 of last 5 years" capital gains exclusion, then when prompted you WILL indicate that this sale DOES INCLUDE the sale of your main home. For AD MIL personnel who don't qualify because of PCS orders, select this option anyway, because you "MIGHT" qualify for at last a partial exclusion.

Start working through Rental & Royalty Income (SCH E) "AS IF" you did not sell the property. One of the screens near the start will have a selection on it for "I sold or otherwise disposed of this property in  2019". Select it. After you select the "I sold or otherwise disposed of this property in 2019" you continue working it through "as if" you still own it. When you come to the summary screen you will enter all of your rental income and expenses, even it it's zero. Then you MUST work through the "Sale of Assets/Depreciation" section. You must work through each individual asset one at a time to report its disposition (in your case, all your rental assets were sold).

Understand that if more than the property itself is listed in your assets list, then you need to allocate your sales price across all of your assets.  You will only allocate the structure sales price; you will NOT allocate the land sales price, since the land is not a depreciable asset.  Then if you sold this rental at a gain, you must show a gain on all assets, even if that gain is $1. Likewise, if you sold at a loss then you must show a loss on all assets, even if that loss is $1

Basically, when working through an asset you select the option for "I stopped using this asset in 2019" and go from there. Note that you MUST do this for EACH AND EVERY asset listed.

When you finish working through everything listed in the assets section, if you ever at any time you owned this rental you claimed vehicle expenses, then you must also work through the vehicle section and show the disposition of the vehicle. Most likely, your vehicle disposition will be "removed for personal use", as I seriously doubt you sold your vehicle as a part of this rental sale.

al_li_2020
Level 2

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

At the screen "Special Handling Required?" I did click "yes". and the reasons listed on screen include:

 

- The business use percentage of the asset varied during the year you owned the asset.

- This is an intangible asset not considered section 1245 property.

- You converted the asset for 100% personal use.

- You gave this asset away as a gift.

- The asset was lost or destroyed due to casualty or theft.

- This asset was a rental, a home office, or a home office improvement within a home.

 

But to me none of these reasons apply to my case, and going forward from here didn't  lead me to the "main residence" question.

 

This is very confusing. Please advise. Thank you very much.

al_li_2020
Level 2

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Thank you for you message. I will read it carefully this evening. 

AmeliesUncle
Level 11

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move


@al_li_2020 wrote:

At the screen "Special Handling Required?" I did click "yes". and the reasons listed on screen include:

....

 

But to me none of these reasons apply to my case, and going forward from here didn't  lead me to the "main residence" question.


 

I agree that those don't seem to apply to you, which means you should be saying NO to the "Special Handling" screen.

 

Carl
Level 15

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Thanks @AmeliesUncle for catching that. Apparently, I was confused with another thread where the property was not sold. SO yes, you will select "NO" on the special handling required screen, and then you'll be prompted for sales information.

 

al_li_2020
Level 2

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Thank you very much for your help.  I think I finally got it right to claim the partial gain exclusion for the home sale. It seems to me TurboTax has divided the gain for selling  this home into a rental business portion and a main residence portion, and the sale of the rental business portion is still taxed as an investment gain.  Please correct me if I am wrong, but if  my understanding is correct, what is the rule for Turbo Tax to make such a division? 

Thanks again.

al_li_2020
Level 2

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

Thank you too for your help.

Mag Jen
Level 1

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

 
ColeenD3
Employee Tax Expert

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

@Mag Jen

 

If during the 5 year period before the date of sale, you used the home as your main home, then yes, you qualify for a partial exclusion. You will only get a partial exclusion for the length of time it was your primary residence.

 

If the last usage was rental, then record the sale in the rental portion of the program. If the last usage was personal, include it under Sale of Main Home, but be sure to include the depreciation so it can be recaptured.

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ColeenD3
Employee Tax Expert

Does the Sale of second home converted rental property qualify for partial exclusion of gain if the conversion was due to work related move

@al_li_2020

 

You said, "It seems to me TurboTax has divided the gain for selling  this home into a rental business portion and a main residence portion, and the sale of the rental business portion is still taxed as an investment gain"

 

Yes, the house is treated as two properties. It was both a rental and a personal home. Each usage is treated differently. For your personal use portion, you can potentially exclude gain if you qualify. For the rental usage portion, not only can you not exclude gain, you have to recapture the depreciation taken.

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