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Day trading tax as single member llc

Hi,

 

I have  setup SIngle member LLC (disrearded entity)  for my traing purpose.

I have couple of question.

1. Do i need to file quaterly taxes?

2. Am I supposed to pay sef-employment tax (Somewhere I read tradign business is not subjected to self-employment tax).

3. How do I report loss-and-gain from my trading?Sch C or Sch D

 

Not I have not elected M2M as I need to offset the losses incurred in the previous year when I was not LLC.

 

Appreciate your comments

 

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Day trading tax as single member llc

1. Do i need to file quaterly taxes?

if you have taxable income you need to make estimated tax payments

for simplicity I'll merely say 1/4 needs to be deposited  4/15, 6/15, 9/15 and 1/15 of following year

 

the payment each period can be 1) 25% of your prior year's tax (27.5% if your AGI was over $150k)

or 2) 22.5% of your current year tax   

 

1) is much easier to know than 2)

 

 

2. Am I supposed to pay sef-employment tax (Somewhere I read tradign business is not subjected to self-employment tax).

Normally, you must pay self-employment tax on all income on Schedule C. But in this case, you don't. It's an additional perk of having trader status in the eyes of the IRS. (See Section 1042(a)(3) for more details.)

On the other hand, you don't qualify for a Keogh, a retirement plan that covers self-employed people, and you don't pay into the Social Security system, so you're on your own for retirement.

 

3. How do I report loss-and-gain from my trading?Sch C or Sch D

 

 

without M2M your trading gains and losses go on schedule D/form 8949 and you're subject to the wash sale rules. your trading expenses, not commissions or exchange fees go on schedule c   

 

 

Not I have not elected M2M as I need to offset the losses incurred in the previous year when I was not LLC

Day trading tax as single member llc

Thanks Mike.

 

I did not mention it earlier, both spouse & me have W2 income and will be filing jointly.

So W2 income will pay social security taxes and hence I get retirement benfits , correct?

 

And onthe quaterly taxes, it is just the estimate of my business income , right? I do not have to consider my W2 income for quaterly estimate?

 

Thanks

Gags 

ThomasM125
Expert Alumni

Day trading tax as single member llc

You will be paying into the social security system with your W-2 wages income. You will get retirement benefits if you earn income over the required number of years. 

 

Assuming you have enough taxes withheld from your salary to pay the taxes due on it, the estimated taxes will only be associated with your investment activities. 

 

 

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Day trading tax as single member llc

Thank you Thomas.

Day trading tax as single member llc

A point of clarification:

  • You can be a trader
  • You can be a trader with trader tax status (TTS)
  • Only the later is able to claim expenses on Schedule C
*A reminder that posts in a forum such as this do not constitute tax advice.
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