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I received a IRS Notice CP09 telling me I may be eligible for EIC. When I filed with Turbo Tax I filled out the info, but it told me that I didn't qualify? Any info?

  • March 8, 2021
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It's telling me to fill out a Form 15111 but I cannot find that anywhere. Do I have to file an amended return?
Best answer by JotikaT2

According to the IRS website, your noticed should have included an Earned Income Credit Worksheet on page 3 of your notice.

 

If you did not receive that, you will need to call the number on the notice to determine what information they need from you.

 

CP09 Notice for Earned Income Credit

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Level 14
March 8, 2021

Please check the information the IRS has sent to you.  That notice says complete the form and return it in the envelope provided.  They are not asking you to amend the return but to submit the information needed on that form.  Check the front and back of the pages.  That is not a form that TuboTax has access to.

 

 

Here are five facts about the EITC all taxpayers should know.

1. Eligibility is limited to low-to-moderate income earners

The general eligibility rules for the EITC are fairly straightforward:

  • Taxpayers must file as individuals or married filing jointly.
  • If married, you, your spouse and your qualifying children must have valid Social Security numbers.
  • You must also be 25 or older but younger than 65.

Although the EITC typically is considered a credit for low-income filers, there are many variations of income, filing status and number of qualifying dependents that affect eligibility. For example:

  • In 2020, a married couple with three children and adjusted gross income of $56,844 or less could receive up to $6,660.
  • An individual who earns $15,820 and has no children may receive up to $538.

It's recommended that all filers explore their eligibility for receiving the EITC each year.  For the 2020 tax year, the maximum credit is $6,660.  According to the Internal Revenue Service, the average amount credited in 2018 was $2,488.

2. Self-employed still counts

Many filers, especially self-employed individuals, fail to take advantage of credits because they think they are ineligible.

The IRS considers all income that is earned eligible for the credit. That includes:

  • Wages
  • Salaries
  • Tips
  • Union strike benefits
  • Long-term disability benefits received prior to minimum retirement age
  • Net earnings from self-employment
  • Gross income received as a statutory employee (an independent contractor under common law rules)

Types of income that do not qualify as earned income for the credit include:

  • Child support
  • Retirement income
  • Social Security benefits
  • Unemployment benefits
  • Alimony
  • Pay received for work while in prison

3. Investment income can disqualify you

In 2020, income derived from investments disqualifies you if it is greater than $3,650 in one year, including income from stock dividends, rental properties or inheritance.

4. Eligibility fluctuates

Taxpayers should pay attention to their EITC eligibility every filing year as tax laws and personal tax situations can change. Changes that could affect your eligibility for the EITC can include

  • a new job,
  • unemployment,
  • loss of an annual bonus,
  • a change in marital status, or
  • a change in a spouse's employment situation.

5. Tax software can help

Electronic tax programs offer an advantage over traditional pen and paper tax preparation because, as long as you enter your information accurately, they ensure that you receive the tax benefits you deserve.

Because the EITC is one of the most lucrative credits available to struggling Americans, filers should consider using a qualified tax software system like TurboTax to maximize the earned income credit.

 

FACTS ABOUT THE EARNED INCOME CREDIT

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catriv72Author
Level 2
March 8, 2021

I have read the letter, it’s telling me to fill out Form 15111 and return it. But there is no form attached and I can’t find it on the IRS website nor anywhere on the internet...

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Employee Tax Expert
March 8, 2021

According to the IRS website, your noticed should have included an Earned Income Credit Worksheet on page 3 of your notice.

 

If you did not receive that, you will need to call the number on the notice to determine what information they need from you.

 

CP09 Notice for Earned Income Credit

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Level 3
March 13, 2021

I called irs and they told me the form is not published yet and told me I didn't need to do anything.   They would figure it and send me a check which I should receive in 6-8 weeks.   So not sure what's up at this point

Level 15
March 15, 2021

It sounds like a process is changing and not everything is caught up.

 

So go with the IRS phone person and leave it for 6-8 weeks, and if you don't hear anything after 8 weeks, call them again at the number here under Frequently Asked Questions.

 

 

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Level 2
March 28, 2021

I received the same notice about 2 weeks ago and it was the same; form 15111 was not  with the notice.  I didn't do anything.  I just received the notice again and this one does have form 15111 included with it.

LenaH
Employee Tax Expert
Employee Tax Expert
March 29, 2021

TurboTax will automatically calculate the Earned Income Credit to your return and guide your through the correct screens, if you qualify for the credit. There may have been a reason you did not qualify for the Earned Income Credit or something entered into TurboTax which prevented those screens from populating. Please review the requirements below (especially the bolded section about qualifying children). Based on your income level, your children must be considered qualifying children in order to be eligible for the credit. 

 

To qualify for and claim the Earned Income Credit you must:

  • Have earned incomeand
  • Have been a U.S. citizen or resident alien for the entire tax year; and
  • Have a valid Social Security number (not an ITIN) for yourself, your spouse (if filing jointly), and any qualifying children on your return; and
  • Not have investment income exceeding $3,650; and
  • Not be filing a Form 2555 or 2555-EZ; and
  • File a return with the Single, Married Filing Jointly, Head of Household, or Qualifying Widower filing status, even if you're not required to file a return.

In addition, both your earned income and Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) may not exceed:

  • $15,820 if you're not claiming a qualifying child ($21,710 if filing jointly);
  • $41,756 if you're claiming 1 qualifying child ($47,646 if filing jointly);
  • $47,440 if you're claiming 2 qualifying children ($53,330 if filing jointly);
  • $50,954 if you're claiming 3+ qualifying children ($56,844 if filing jointly).

To count as a qualifying child for EIC, your child must have a valid Social Security number (not an ITIN).

She or he must also:

  • Be your child (including legally adopted), stepchild, eligible foster child, sibling, half-sibling, step-sibling, or a descendant of any of them (for example, your grandchild or niece); and
  • Be permanently and totally disabled or under the age of 19 as of December 31, 2020 (under 24 if a full-time student) and younger than you (or your spouse, if filing jointly); and
  • Have lived with you (or your spouse, if filing jointly) for more than half the year in the United States (unless you were in the military); and
  • Not file jointly with their spouse unless they weren't required to file but did so anyway to claim a tax refund.

If you qualified for the Earned Income Credit, based on the guidelines above, then you can follow the instructions on amending your 2020 return on the page How do I amend my 2020 return?.

 

​​​​​​​Once you elect to amend your return, you can search for the Earned Income Credit Section by following the steps below:

  1. Open your return.
  2. Search for EIC with the magnifying glass tool at the top of the page.
  3. Follow the on-screen instructions. 

​​​​​​​If you amend your return to include the Earned Income Credit, there is no reason to send back IRS Form 15111. Form 15111 is a worksheet to help you determine whether you qualify for the EIC based on the dependents listed on your return. If you qualify, all the necessary information will be in your amended return. 

 

@Shane077

@catriv72

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Level 2
May 29, 2021

Has anyone received their refund after submitting the CP09 notice back to the IRS?

Level 2
February 3, 2022

I did also, can you tell me the address where to send this back to? I can't find it anywhere!

 

Thanks

Level 15
February 3, 2022

This IRS website discussing the CP09 specifically says:  "Do not return the form to us."

 

What tax year did the CP09 refer to?  Read the line under Step 1.  Does it specify 2020 or a prior tax year?

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Level 2
June 24, 2022

I received the letter CP09 and I wanted to know how long will it be so far it's been 9 weeks what do I do now 

 

Level 15
June 24, 2022

@R3dd36 - sit tight - could be months - IRS is woefully backlogged.... and just because they asked for more information doesn't mean you are necessarily eligible for EITC! 

 

curious - was their ask related to the 2021 tax return? and was your income (Line 11 of Form 1040) LOWER than this table? I am trying to understand why these letters go out because it is something Turbo Tax should have been able to figure out.  (if it is 2020, it would make a little bit more sense)

 

 

Single / HOH/ MFS / Qual Widow

Married – Joint

0 Children

$9,800

 $9,800

1 Child

$10,600

 $10,600

2 Children

 $14,950

 $14,950

3 Children

 $14,950

 $14,950

Level 2
June 30, 2022

Yeah I haven't gotten mine either. This is getting ridiculous. 

Level 15
June 30, 2022

@valadezs87 - ublikely you are eligible for anything if your income is above the income numbers I posted above

Level 2
June 30, 2022

They would send out a letter if you aren't eligible but I never received a letter so I'm pretty sure I am approved.  Just time when they are going to send it. 

 

Level 2
September 13, 2022

I  still yet to received my other half of the Child Tax Credit. I refill out the form and sent it back in March and its September with no letter or response on the status of the CTC.

Level 15
September 13, 2022

@btoledo12 Your"other half" of the child tax credit will be part of the refund for your 2021 tax return.   It is shown on line 28 of your 2021 Form 1040.  Do you mean you have not yet received your income tax refund?

 

First, check your e-file status to see if your return was accepted: 

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tools/efile-status-lookup/

 

Once your federal return has been accepted by the IRS, only the IRS has any control.  TurboTax does not receive any updates from the IRS. Your ONLY source of information about your refund now is the IRS.

 

You need your filing status, your Social Security number and the exact amount  (line 35a of your 2021 Form 1040) of your federal refund to track your Federal refund:   

https://www.irs.gov/refunds

To track your state refund:    

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1899433-how-do-i-track-my-state-refund

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1901548-why-do-some-refunds-take-longer-than-others

If you chose to have your TurboTax fees deducted from your federal refund, that will take some extra time, while the third party bank handles the refund processing.

https://www.irs.gov/refunds/tax-season-refund-frequently-asked-questions

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2840013-does-accepted-mean-my-refund-is-approved

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/2724106-my-return-is-accepted-but-still-not-approved-is-there-a-problem-should-i-be-worried

 

 

OR——if you filed by mail, expect a long wait.   It is taking the very backlogged IRS six to nine months to process mailed returns.   Until a human opens your envelope and enters the data into the system, nothing will even show up on the refund site, so you will have to be very patient.

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Level 2
September 13, 2022

There was nothing entered on my line 28. I have not received my other half still.

 

Level 2
January 23, 2023

We received the same letter in April 2022. Sent it back with everything they asked for. Well no January 2023 we received everything back including our envelope that we sent with it stating they are missing form 15111 which was sent back to us. IRS has no idea why it was sent back and now says to fill it out again and send it in. We never received a check. 

Level 15
January 23, 2023

The IRS is taking extended periods to respond which is unfortunate.  

 

The best resource for you may be the Taxpayer Advocate Service (TAS).  They are in place to assist in situations where you are unable to obtain resolution on your own.

  1. You can click here to begin: TAS Qualifier Tool. or 
  2. Submit a request for assistance - Form 911 Request for TAS Assistance (instructions are included)
  3. Locate the local TAS Office for your area

This will get the process started for you.  It's not going to be a fast process because they are handling a large volume at this time. 

 

If you do not hear from TAS within one week of submitting Form 911, contact the Taxpayer Advocate office where you originally submitted your request. Incomplete information or requests submitted to a Taxpayer Advocate office outside of your geographical location may result in delays.

 

@Hancel123

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Level 2
May 19, 2023

Did you ever receive your check?