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Why were Qualified Higher Education Expenses reduced by $10K?

My son is a full time student and I claim him as a dependent on my tax return. He received 1099-Q from that indicates that Gross Distributions (Box 1) are $57,430. The qualified higher education expenses on 1098-T form are $61,541 and there are no refunds and scholarship. However, after I entered both forms on my son's tax return, TurboTax reduced the Adjusted Higher  Education Expenses applied by $10,000, making them $51,541 instead of $61,541 on "Qualified Tuition Program (QTP) Computation of Taxable Distribution" worksheet. This change generates a taxable amount of $1,475. Why did TurboTax make this adjustment? It sounds like a bug to me.

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Why were Qualified Higher Education Expenses reduced by $10K?

It is a bug.  

 

TT does not "sense" that you do not qualify for a tuition credit so it allocates expenses to the credit (sometimes $4000 but usually $10,000).

 

The 1099-Q and the  1098-T are only informational documents. The numbers on them are not required to be entered onto your (or your student's) tax return.

 

You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. 

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

 

 

If you feel more comfortable having TT produce the work sheet, there are some things you can try:

 

Go through the education section again. Go through the entire education interview until you reach a screen titled "Your Education Expenses Summary".  Click edit next to the student's name. That should take you to a screen “Here’s your Education Summary”. Click edit next to “Education Information”. When you get to the screen titled “Amount Used to Calculate Education Deduction or Credit”, verify the amount you want to use or change it.  If you are eligible for the credit, change it to $4000.  If not eligible, change it to 0.

 

Instead, in the education interview, you may reach a screen titled "Choosing a larger education Credit". Verify that TT has entered $10,000 (the amount needed to get the maximum LLC) in the box on that page. In your case, change it to 4000 or 0.

 

PLAN C.  On the Student Information Worksheet (abbreviated Student Info Wk on the forms list), go to part VI and change line 17 (“Used for credit”) to 4000 or 0. Make the change in the first column.  That will automatically change the other columns.

You can't get to the worksheet to directly edit if you are using the online version of TurboTax.  You would need to use the download version to edit on the form.

 

You can however go to Tools>>Tax Tools>>Delete a form and then delete the student worksheet which would allow you to walk back through the answers making sure you entered everything correctly.

Why were Qualified Higher Education Expenses reduced by $10K?

Thank you very much for your detailed answer! As my son's income was $1,800 (he worked as a teaching assistant in his university), he doesn't seem to need to file a tax return at all, correct? His income is below a threshold. Does it matter that his school is located in a different state (so, the income was earned in NY and he lives in IL)?

Hal_Al
Level 15

Why were Qualified Higher Education Expenses reduced by $10K?

Q.  As my son's income was $1,800 (he worked as a teaching assistant in his university), he doesn't seem to need to file a tax return at all, correct? His income is below a threshold.

A.  Yes.  The threshold for earned income is $12,550.

 

Q.  Does it matter that his job is located in a different state (so, the income was earned in NY and he lives in IL)? 

A.  Yes, theoretically.  But in your case, no. If you work in  a different state, you pay tax to that state and your home state. But, your home state gives you a credit for any tax paid to the non resident state.  But, the NY filing threshold, for his case (dependent) is $3100, so he doesn't need to file. 

Reference: https://www.tax.ny.gov/pit/file/nonresidents.htm

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