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eknakai78
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I got a 1099Q from a 529 as a distribution and I got a scholarship. I know I "may" owe on earnings but its taxing me on both. Why? Fix?

 
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AmyC
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I got a 1099Q from a 529 as a distribution and I got a scholarship. I know I "may" owe on earnings but its taxing me on both. Why? Fix?

Let's start with the 1099-Q. Did all of it get used on 529 qualified Room and Board  and Qualified Education Expenses - Internal Revenue Service?

  • If yes, do not enter the Q into the program.
  • If no, you do have a taxable portion.

IRS Publication 970, Tax Benefits for Education states:

Page 45: Don't report tax-free distributions (including qualifying rollovers) on your tax return.

Please remove the form and keep it with your tax files.

 

1098-T  If you qualify for an education credit, that is the first goal. You cannot claim the credit if your MAGI is over $90,000 ($180,000 for joint filers). 

Step 1 -Do you qualify for an education credit (see What You Need to Know about AOTC and LLC:(

Yes, can claim the credit:

Are the scholarships restricted to paying for tuition?

  • If restricted, remove those funds from the eligible scholarships.
  • If not restricted, excellent.

How much tuition is in box 1 - we need $4k for AOTC or $10k for LLC

  • For AOTC
  • If less than $4,000 we want to use it all and make the scholarships go 100% toward room and board.
  • If more than $4,000, scholarships can cover the amount over $4,000 and the rest to room and board.

No, can't claim the credit:

  • the 1098-T is entered on the student return

Does the student need to file a tax return is the next question. Take this quick quiz, Filing requirement

 

For example: 1098-T box 1 is $15,000, box 5 17,000

Need $10k for LLC

Tuition is $15,000 - 10k for LLC is $5k to be covered  by scholarships.

Scholarships are $17k and use $5k on tuition. This leaves $12k to go towards room and board.

You get the full LLC.

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Hal_Al
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I got a 1099Q from a 529 as a distribution and I got a scholarship. I know I "may" owe on earnings but its taxing me on both. Why? Fix?

There are three things you can do with your Qualified educational expenses (QEE):

  1. Allocate then to scholarships (so that the scholarship remains tax free)
  2. Use them to claim an education credit
  3. Allocate them to the 529 distribution (1099-Q) so that it will not all be taxable

TurboTax allocates QEE, in that order, but it doesn't do a very good job if you want something different. TurboTax allocates QEE, in that order, until you tell it otherwise.  It's best if you have some idea of the outcome expected, when you make your entries. In addition to entering numbers, you must complete the “Education Information” sub-section. In particular, be on the lookout for a screen “education expenses used for a tax credit”. It will usually be prepopulated (sometimes with $10K instead of the more appropriate $4K). You can change it for the amount you want to allocate to the ed credit, including changing it to 0. If you don't get that screen, check the student information worksheet. You can change it there (line 17). Make the change in the first column.  

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Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit regardless of whose money was used to pay the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board which is only qualified for the 1099-Q)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

There is  $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. A student, with no other income, can have up to $14,600 of taxable scholarship (in 2024) and still pay no income tax. 

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There are three things you can do with your Qualified educational expenses (QEE):

  1. Allocate then to scholarships (so that the scholarship remains tax free)
  2. Use them to claim an education credit
  3. Allocate them to the 529 distribution (1099-Q) so that it will not all be taxable

TurboTax allocates QEE, in that order, but it doesn't do a very good job if you want something different. TurboTax allocates QEE, in that order, until you tell it otherwise.  It's best if you have some idea of the outcome expected, when you make your entries. In addition to entering numbers, you must complete the “Education Information” sub-section. In particular, be on the lookout for a screen “education expenses used for a tax credit”. It will usually be prepopulated (sometimes with $10K instead of the more appropriate $4K). You can change it for the amount you want to allocate to the ed credit, including changing it to 0. If you don't get that screen, check the student information worksheet. You can change it there (line 17). Make the change in the first column.  

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