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Form 8615....what the heck

Hello to anyone reading this.  My daughter is a full time student on a scholarship.  The school gave me a 1098-T, I plugged it all in Turbotax 2024.  She has no w2 or any other income, etc.  Her tuition was 9654, the total scholarship was 31329.  I understand the 21000 ish is taxable.  Turbotax had her owing about 700 to Federal, about 150 to state.  One of the review questions was how much is your parents AGI, line 6 I believe.  Once I put that number in, her taxes due jumped up to almost 2000.  What is the deal since I am already getting taxed on that money in my taxes?  Any help or clarification would be greatly appreciated.

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Hal_Al
Level 15

Form 8615....what the heck

Q. What is the deal since I am already getting taxed on that money in my taxes? 

A. Do not report her scholarship income on your tax return. It goes on her tax return only. The "kiddie tax" (form 8615) does apply. 

 

Scholarships are a hybrid between earned and unearned income. It is earned income for purposes of the $14,600 filing requirement (2024) and the dependent standard deduction calculation (earned income + $450).  It is not earned income for the kiddie tax and other purposes (e.g. EIC).  For grad students and post grad fellows, scholarship, stipend and fellowship income is earned income ("compensation") for IRA contributions.  

 

 There is a tax “loop hole” available to claim an education credit, for the parents of students on scholarship. The student reports all his scholarship, up to the amount needed to claim the American Opportunity Credit (AOC), as income on his return. That way, the parents  (or himself, if he is not a dependent) can claim the tuition credit on their return. They can do this because that much tuition was no longer paid by "tax free" scholarship.  You cannot do this  if the conditions of the grant are that it be used to pay for qualified expenses.

Using an example: Student has $31239 in box 5 of the 1098-T and $9654 in box 1. At first glance he/she has $21585 of taxable income and nobody can claim the American opportunity credit. But if she reports $25585 as income on her return, the parents can claim $4000 of qualified expenses on their return.

Books and computers are also qualifying expenses for the AOC. So, extending the example, the student had another $1000 in expenses for those course materials, paid out of pocket. She would only need to report $24585 of taxable scholarship income, instead of $25585.

The IRS actually encourages use of this technique. From the form 1040 instructions: “You may be able to increase an education credit if the student chooses to include all or part of a Pell grant or certain other scholarships or fellowships in income. For more information, see Pub. 970, the instructions for Form 1040 and IRS.gov/EdCredit".  PUB 970 even has examples of how to do the “loop hole”.

 

 

 

Taxable scholarship goes on line 8r of Schedule 1, from which TT treats it as hybrid income.

rjs
Level 15
Level 15

Form 8615....what the heck

You are not being taxed again on your income. Your daughter is subject to "kiddie tax," which means she pays tax at your tax rate on unearned income in excess of $2,600 (for 2024). As Hal_Al said, taxable scholarship income is considered unearned income for the kiddie tax. TurboTax needs some information from your tax return to fill out the kiddie tax form, Form 8615, and calculate the tax at your rate. It is not taxing your income again. It's applying your tax rate to some of your daughter's income.

 

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