1651251
We took a distribution from a state-sponsored 529 plan toward eligible expenses for my dependent’s college education. After entering the 1099-Q data on my return, I receive a message that “Based on the educational expenses you’ve entered, the student beneficiary must report $356 of taxable income from this distribution.” When we complete my son’s return, the message is that he should not claim it but I should.
You can see why I am confused! Which is it, please?
Notes:
1. My 21-year old son is a dependent, working toward his first bachelor's degree.
2. The expenses were eligible and there was no refund.
3. His AGI is $2,400.
PS: I acknowledge that it isn't "necessary" to include this because the expenses in this case were eligible but I want to understand the "right" way.
You'll need to sign in or create an account to connect with an expert.
"I acknowledge that it isn't "necessary" to include this because the expenses in this case were eligible but I want to understand the "right" way."
Not reporting it is an alternate "right way", especially if you're having trouble navigating the TurboTax (TT) Interview. On the IRS tax forms, it comes out the same. It's complicated.
That said, for 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the 529 Plan to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return. The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q. The TT interview asks you who is the recipient. Then, it asks who is the student.
Read on for more info about 529 distributions, particularly why you actually may want to pay some tax on the distribution (TT may have actually done it right already).
________________________________________________________________________
Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans)
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $600
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free
60%x600= $360
You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit.
Still have questions?
Questions are answered within a few hours on average.
Post a Question*Must create login to post
Ask questions and learn more about your taxes and finances.
MBBU88
Returning Member
ae666999
Level 1
in Education
rbucking4
New Member
cboise
New Member
mccurma
New Member