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CP2000-State guaranteed tuition payment-distribution to parent

We received a CP2000 adding the earnings portion of a State 529 plan payment to our income and assessing deficiency. Reimbursement was made to parent, but was based on payment of qualified education expenses for dependent child. Do we simply send a response with a copy of the 1099-T and proof of payments to educational institution and a letter explaining the situation?  In the future we will avoid this situation by having payments sent directly from program to institution. 

 

The CP2000 notice also contained a confusing analysis of the Schedule A standard deduction which we did not use. Is this done as a matter of course?  

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CP2000-State guaranteed tuition payment-distribution to parent

 Do we simply send a response with a copy of the 1099-T and proof of payments to educational institution and a letter explaining the situation?  Yes ... that is exactly what you do. 

 

In the future we will avoid this situation by having payments sent directly from program to institution.  That is the best option. 

Hal_Al
Level 15

CP2000-State guaranteed tuition payment-distribution to parent

 

The CP2000 notice also contained a confusing analysis of the Schedule A standard deduction which we did not use. Is this done as a matter of course?  

 

Yes. You can ignore that part. Just respond respond with the proof of tuition payment.  Explanation: If the 529 was taxable, it would change your AGI which changes your allowable medical deduction

Hal_Al
Level 15

CP2000-State guaranteed tuition payment-distribution to parent

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.  Since the student is more likely not to have other income, an IRS notice is unlikely.  On the other hand, it's unlikely you'll get a 2nd notice, if the first one is resolved in your favor.


The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, if you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. You cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

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More info on 529 plans (and State guaranteed tuition plans):

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $600

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free

60%x600= $360

You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)

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