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If you can claim your daughter as a dependent, you can claim an education credit or tuition and fees deduction.
See the following explanation from IRS Publication 970:
Who Can Claim a Dependent's Expenses?
Generally, in order to claim the tuition and fees deduction for qualified education expenses for a dependent, you must:
For you to be able to deduct qualified education expenses for your dependent, you must claim an exemption for that individual
Expenses paid by dependent. If your dependent pays qualified education expenses, no one can take a tuition and fees deduction for those expenses. Neither you nor your dependent can deduct the expenses. For purposes of the tuition and fees deduction, you aren't treated as paying any expenses actually paid by a dependent for whom you or anyone other than the dependent can claim an exemption. This rule applies even if you don't claim an exemption for your dependent on your tax return.
If you can claim your daughter as a dependent, you can claim an education credit or tuition and fees deduction.
See the following explanation from IRS Publication 970:
Who Can Claim a Dependent's Expenses?
Generally, in order to claim the tuition and fees deduction for qualified education expenses for a dependent, you must:
For you to be able to deduct qualified education expenses for your dependent, you must claim an exemption for that individual
Expenses paid by dependent. If your dependent pays qualified education expenses, no one can take a tuition and fees deduction for those expenses. Neither you nor your dependent can deduct the expenses. For purposes of the tuition and fees deduction, you aren't treated as paying any expenses actually paid by a dependent for whom you or anyone other than the dependent can claim an exemption. This rule applies even if you don't claim an exemption for your dependent on your tax return.
In 2018, I remember being able to claim the tuition I paid for my daughters college even though I cant claim her on my taxes. Has the law changed for 2019?
No, the law hasn't changed. The student must be your dependent to claim a tuition credit or deduction.
If you have a 529 plan, where you are the owner and the student is the beneficiary, it is not necessary for the student-beneficiary to be your dependent, for you to claim the earnings exclusion.
In either case, it is not necessary that YOU paid the tuition. It is only necessary that the student had qualified expenses.
But, then HOW do I take the tuition credit, having a 529 account where I paid everything, i.e. I'm the owner and she's the beneficiary, if she's NOT my dependent anymore? When I try, it wants me to put her in as a dependent. I'm in an endless loop.
@Beccapooh88 Two different situations; two different rules.
1. You can NOT claim a tuition credit. The student must be your dependent to claim a tuition credit or deduction. But the student, can claim the credit, even though you paid the tuition.
2. If you have a 529 plan, where you are the owner and the student is the beneficiary, it is not necessary for the student-beneficiary to be your dependent, for you to claim the earnings exclusion.
But, you cannot double dip. you can not double dip. She cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets you an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $600
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free
60%x600= $360
You have $240 of taxable income (600-360)
***Another alternative is have the student report some of her scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit
My daughter has a 529 Plan setup which she has used to pay for her college tuition.
When I go and do her taxes I enter in the Tuition form and it says she can't claim that because we have her listed as a dependant. (which she is) However, That is her money and should be able to claim it. Is there a workaround for this?
It depends if you're asking about her claiming a tuition credit or claiming an exclusion for the 529 plan earnings.
Q. Is there a workaround for this (letting her claim a tuition credit)?
A. No. Since she is your dependent, only you can claim the tuition credit, regardless of who's money it was. Furthermore, 529 money is not, usually, considered to be the student-beneficiary's money, it's the plan owner's money.
Q. Is there a workaround for this (claiming expenses for the 529 distribution)?
A. Yes. Just don't report the 529 Distribution (or the 1099-Q form that the distribution is reported on).
You can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you (the parent) to claim the tuition credit on your tax return. . You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip!
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
You say "When I go and do her taxes I enter in the Tuition form (1098-T) and it says she can't claim that because we have her listed as a dependent." That just means she can't claim a tuition credit. She can still enter her expenses to offset the distribution, if she needs to do the calculation.
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit (on the parent's return)
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
You have $1120 of taxable income
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.
No, there is not a workaround for your daughter to claim the college tuition. Since you are claiming your daughter as a dependent then she cannot claim the education credit on her taxes. The tuition credit goes to the party claiming the exemption (dependent). Since you are claiming your daughter you can claim the college tuition/expenses for your daughter on your return. This link talks about the requirements for you to claim your daughter on your tax return Dependent Requirements.
As for the funds she received from her 529 Plan, you can only claim college tuition/expenses on the amount that exceeds the distribution from the 519 Plan.
Funds distributed from a 529 Plan, will be reported by the bank on a Form 1099-Q. The 1099-Q is sent to the owner/recipient of the 529 Plan funds. The Form 1099-Q is to be reported as income if they were not used to pay qualified college tuition/expenses. If the amount reported on the 1099-Q were used to cover qualified college tuition/expenses you do not need to report the income. If the amount exceeds the amount of college tuition/ expenses then the excess needs to be reported as other income on your 1040.
Here is an article that talks about What is IRS Form 1099-Q.
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