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Only one return can claim the education credit associated with the 1098T. If a student is being claimed as a dependent on another tax return, then that student is not eligible for the education credit. The credit goes on the return on the person claiming the student (i.e. parent).
Sometimes it is necessary for the student to report the 1098T even though they are being claimed as a dependent. These are cases where scholarships/grants exceed the amount of educational expenses, which causes a taxable scholarship. In these cases, the parent would not get an educational credit because there are no expenses left after subtracting the scholarships/grants. But, the student still needs to report the 1098T and pay tax on the excess of the scholarships/grants after subtracting expenses because it is taxable income.
Question, will the parent have to pay back to the irs if the student files the 1098-T, even though the parent did not put the student as a dependent in their taxes
My daughter filed her 2020 tax return using TurboTax and said she could be claimed as a dependent on my return. TurboTax let her complete From 8863 to claim the American Opportunity Credit using the info on her 1098-T. When I filed my taxes and included form 8863, the IRS rejected my return.
Why did TurboTax allow her to claim the AOC if she said she could be claimed as a dependent on my return ?
Check her form 1040. Is the box "Someone can claim you as a dependent" actually checked.
Yes it is !
How old was the student on 12-31-20?
How much AOC did she get? That is, what's on lines 8 and 19 of form 8863.
There's actually provision that allows the the student to claim a credit (with limits) if the parent foregoes claiming the dependent. In the personal info section of TT did she indicate both that she can be claimed and will be claimed?
Student was 20 on 12/31/20.
Line 8 - $0
Line 19 - $448 (not sure what this is?)
Yes - she indicated that she can be claimed and will be claimed.
Her return was accepted by the IRS.
@danhugo55 Just checking you were able to get your return e-filed and accepted? Thank you.
What if the grandparent paid the tuition from a 529 account? Does the student file the 1098T form, the parent of the dependent student, or the grandparent paying the tuition?
Thanks!
To clarify, who was issued the 1099-Q? The Owner (grandparents) or Beneficiary (student)?
Q. What if the grandparent paid the tuition from a 529 account? Does the student file the 1098T form, the parent of the dependent student, or the grandparent paying the tuition?
A. You have to coordinate with the parents and the student to allocate the Qualified educational expenses (QEE) for the best tax benefit for the family. It is entirely possible that all 3 of you will enter the 1098-T (with adjustments).
Nobody actually "files" the 1098-T. The 1098-T is only an informational document. The numbers on it are not required to be entered onto your tax return. However receipt of a 1098-T frequently means the parents are either eligible for a tuition credit or possibly the student has taxable scholarship income.
Furthermore, you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for the parents to claim the tuition credit. You also cannot count expenses that were paid by tax free scholarships. You cannot double dip!
References:
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Qualified Tuition Plans (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions
General Discussion
It’s complicated.
For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent, but can be a grandparent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q.
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.
You (the parents) can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The American Opportunity Credit (AOC or AOTC) is 100% of the first $2000 of tuition and 25% of the next $2000 ($2500 maximum credit). The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit, that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.
Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q.
Example:
$10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)
-$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***
-$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit
=$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (on the recipient’s return)
Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000
Box 2 is $2800
3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable
40% x 2800= $1120
There is $1120 of taxable income (on the recipient’s return)
**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip! When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.
On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution."
***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings.
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