Hi- I need help answering some of the questions in TurboTax relating to education expenses. I feel like I'm double counting, but I'm not sure.
FACTS:
- One child claimed as a dependent. He's 22 and was a full-time student the entire tax year.
- Child has no other income to report.
- He received the American Opportunity Credit for the past 3 years (which I am uncertain now if I did the tax forms correctly, hence the questions below).
FUNDS:
$12,500 1098-T Box 5 (no other scholarships/grants received)
$ 7,500 1098-T Box 1
$ 5,000 Net 1098-T
$13,000 Loan proceeds sent directly to school from lender
$18,000 Total funds received by school
$ (500) Materials Fee- deducted by school before refunding student unused funds
$ (600) Other Fees- deducted by school before refunding student unused funds
$16,900 Unused Funds- refunded to student
In addition:
$800 Total cost for books/supplies/etc paid for by student using the unused funds that were refunded.
$9,000 Total paid for apartment rent
HOW DO I RESPOND TO THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS IN TURBOTAX?:
1. Books and materials required to be purchased from school ___________. I was thinking $1,100 (materials fee + other fees above).
2. Books and materials NOT required to be purchased from school ___________. I was thinking $800.
3. Total used to pay for room and board with a scholarship or grant ___________. I was thinking $5,000 (the net 1098-T amount above).
I appreciate your help!
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Q1. Books and materials required to be purchased from school ___________. I was thinking $1,100 (materials fee + other fees above)?
A1. Yes
Q2. Books and materials NOT required to be purchased from school ___________. I was thinking $800?
A2. Yes.
Q3. Total used to pay for room and board with a scholarship or grant ___________. I was thinking $5,000 (the net 1098-T amount above).
A3. It would be $3100. You can claim $7500 of the scholarship went to tuition and $1900 went to books, etc.
But it depends on whether you (or him) are eligible to claim the tuition credit. If so, you answer $7100 (to claim the AOC, you are only going to allocate $3500 of tuition to scholarship to , so that you can allocate $4000 to the AOC. See "loop hole" below
"He received the American Opportunity Credit (AOC) for the past 3 years".
Do you mean you received it on your return because you claimed him as a dependent? He's not eligible for the AOC. See "myth" below.
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There is a tax “loop hole” available to claim an education credit, for the parents of students on scholarship. The student reports all his scholarship, up to the amount needed to claim the American Opportunity Credit (AOC), as income on his return. That way, the parents (or himself, if he is not a dependent) can claim the tuition credit on their return. They can do this because that much tuition was no longer paid by "tax free" scholarship. You cannot do this if the conditions of the grant are that it be used to pay for qualified expenses.
Using an example: Student has $10,000 in box 5 of the 1098-T and $8000 in box 1. At first glance he/she has $2000 of taxable income and nobody can claim the American opportunity credit. But if she reports $6000 as income on her return, the parents can claim $4000 of qualified expenses on their return.
Books and computers are also qualifying expenses for the AOC. So, extending the example, the student had another $1000 in expenses for those course materials, paid out of pocket. She would only need to report $5000 of taxable scholarship income, instead of $6000.
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There's a new urban myth among college students that says they can get a $1000 from the government just for filing a tax form. For most of them, they simply aren't eligible. A full time unmarried student, under age 24, even if you don't qualify as a dependent, is only eligible for the refundable portion of the American Opportunity Credit if he supports himself by working. You cannot be supporting yourself on parental support, 529 plans or student loans & grants. It is usually best if the parent claims that credit.
You cannot claim the (up to) $1000 refundable credit if you are, or can be, claimed as a dependent by someone else.
Reference: Line 7 instructions for form 8863.
https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i8863#en_US_2024_publink53002gd0e674
The IRS actually encourages use of this technique. From the form 1040 instructions: “You may be able to increase an education credit if the student chooses to include all or part of a Pell grant or certain other scholarships or fellowships in income. For more information, see Pub. 970, the instructions for Form 1040 and IRS.gov/EdCredit". PUB 970 even has examples of how to do the “loop hole”.
To clarify, me (the parent), received the AOC for the past 3 years. A few more questions:
1. What is the math to arrive at the $7,100?
2. Assuming the parent takes the $7,100, does this mean my son will have taxable income of $7,100?
3. If my son files a tax return and the $7,100 is his only income, does he end up owing? Is there a threshold where he wouldn't owe and maybe that is the figure the parent should use instead of $7,100?
4. If my son does NOT owe any taxes, is he required to file anyway?
Thank you!
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