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1098-T and Tuition Expense Interview Bug

There is a bug in the interview for 1098-Ts. I have multiple students, one recently graduated and now on their own, who does not qualify as a dependent for 2021 so there is no interview for the 1098-T for the last semester, so those expenses went in without any prompts for 1098-T. Another student is full time, I skipped past the 1098-T because I didn't have it although I did put in the 529 information. When I got the 1098-T and went back, the interview would not prompt for any 1098-T information. I managed to navigate to the form view and put it in, and now the tax calculates correctly, at least it appears to, but the interview summary for deductions still does not show the expenses and scholarships I entered on the form view. Anyone else seen this and how do you fix it?

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MarilynG1
Expert Alumni

1098-T and Tuition Expense Interview Bug

To enter a 1098-T after you have already entered a Student, click on Edit for the student on the 'Your Education Expenses Summary' page.

 

On the next page, EDIT the School to add the 1098-T on 'Here's Your Education Summary'

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1098-T and Tuition Expense Interview Bug

Did all that, including going through the inteview again. Still shows the summary 1098-T line as zero on the step by step overview. On the form view, the form is populated correctly.

AmyC
Expert Alumni

1098-T and Tuition Expense Interview Bug

Only expenses related to dependents can be taken. The student that graduated, will need to put their expenses on their return. Entering the expenses in the FORMS mode is not recommended.  Going back to the education expenses summary and click Edit, is the best way to enter information. As long as you  did not overwrite anything, you are okay since it is on the forms. 

 

In the program, follow these steps:

  1. Did you pay for books or materials to attend school? Yes
  2. Enter related amounts, tuition will say $0
  3. Continue
  4. Scholarships and Financial Aid, continue
  5. Did you get a scholarship? yes and fill in boxes or no
  6. Continue
  7. screen asking Four Years of College Credit Before 2021? answer yes or no
  8. Continue
  9. Is this First Year of College? answer yes or no 
  10. Continue
  11. Ever Receive American Opportunity or Hope Credit? answer yes or no
  12. Continue
  13. Felony drug conviction? yes or no
  14. Continue
  15. Education Expenses Summary, EDIT - select student and edit 
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1098-T and Tuition Expense Interview Bug

Tried doing all this and it still refuses to populate the summary page with education expenses, insists on a zero after multiple attempts. In forms view, the 1098-T is filled out correctly, and I have done the interview multiple times for the student including re-entering all the values and the darn thing still puts a zero in for the summary. I'm thinking of just ignoring this, any suggestions for confirming that this is not affecting tax owed?

 

Hal_Al
Level 15

1098-T and Tuition Expense Interview Bug

It's not clear what you are trying to accomplish; claim the tuition credit or just match expenses to the 1099-Q, or  both or something else.

 

Qualified Tuition Plans  (QTP 529 Plans) Distributions

General Discussion

It’s complicated.

For 529 plans, there is an “owner” (usually the parent), and a “beneficiary” (usually the student dependent). The "recipient" of the distribution can be either the owner or the beneficiary depending on who the money was sent to. When the money goes directly from the Qualified Tuition Plan (QTP) to the school, the student is the "recipient". The distribution will be reported on IRS form 1099-Q. 
The 1099-Q gets reported on the recipient's return.** The recipient's name & SS# will be on the 1099-Q.
Even though the 1099-Q is going on the student's return, the 1098-T should go on the parent's return, so you can claim the education credit. You can do this because he is your dependent.

You can and should claim the tuition credit before claiming the 529 plan earnings exclusion. The educational expenses he claims for the 1099-Q should be reduced by the amount of educational expenses you claim for the credit.
But be aware, you can not double dip. You cannot count the same tuition money, for the tuition credit,  that gets him an exclusion from the taxability of the earnings (interest) on the 529 plan. Since the credit is more generous; use as much of the tuition as is needed for the credit and the rest for the interest exclusion. Another special rule allows you to claim the tuition credit even though it was "his" money that paid the tuition.
In addition, there is another rule that says the 10% penalty is waived if he was unable to cover the 529 plan withdrawal with educational expenses either because he got scholarships or the expenses were used (by him or the parents) to claim the credits. He'll have to pay tax on the earnings, at his lower tax rate (subject to the “kiddie tax”), but not the penalty.

 

Total qualified expenses (including room & board) less amounts paid by scholarship less amounts used to claim the Tuition credit equals the amount you can use to claim the earnings exclusion on the 1099-Q. 
Example:
  $10,000 in educational expenses(including room & board)

   -$3000 paid by tax free scholarship***

   -$4000 used to claim the American Opportunity credit

 =$3000 Can be used against the 1099-Q (usually on the student’s return)

 

Box 1 of the 1099-Q is $5000

Box 2 is $2800

3000/5000=60% of the earnings are tax free; 40% are taxable

40% x 2800= $1120

You have $1120 of taxable income  

 

**Alternatively; you can just not report the 1099-Q, at all, if your student-beneficiary has sufficient educational expenses, including room & board (even if he lives at home) to cover the distribution. You would still have to do the math to see if there were enough expenses left over for you to claim the tuition credit. Again, you cannot double dip!  When the box 1 amount on form 1099-Q is fully covered by expenses, TurboTax will enter nothing about the 1099-Q on the actual tax forms. But, it will prepare a 1099-Q worksheet for your records, in case of an IRS inquiry.

On form 1099-Q, instructions to the recipient reads: "Nontaxable distributions from CESAs and QTPs are not required to be reported on your income tax return. You must determine the taxability of any distribution." 

***Another alternative is have the student report some of his scholarship as taxable income, to free up some expenses for the 1099-Q and/or tuition credit. Most people come out better having the scholarship taxable before the 529 earnings. 

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