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February 17, 2021
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Where is form 8853?

  • February 17, 2021
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When will turbo tax get form 8853?

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Level 15
February 17, 2021

The IRS has not finalized the form and not given us permission to update our software. Form 8853, Long-Term Care Insurance Contracts is estimated to be available sometime on 2/18/2021. 

 

You must file Form 8853 if any of the following applies.

  • You (or your employer) made contributions for 2020 to your Archer MSA.

  • You are filing a joint return and your spouse (or his or her employer) made contributions for 2020 to your spouse's Archer MSA.

  • You (or your spouse, if filing jointly) acquired an interest in an Archer MSA or a Medicare Advantage MSA because of the death of the account holder. See Death of Account Holder, later.

  • You (or your spouse, if filing jointly) were a policyholder who received payments under an LTC insurance contract or received any accelerated death benefits from a life insurance policy on a per diem or other periodic basis in 2020. See the instructions for Section C, later.

  • You (or your spouse, if filing jointly) received Archer MSA or Medicare Advantage MSA distributions in 2020.

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Level 2
February 17, 2021

This does not appear to be correct.  The 2020 version of Form 8853 has been available on the IRS website for some time, and there is no mention of any expected update.

 

Level 15
February 17, 2021

We have to submit our forms to the IRS and state departments of revenue for approval and do rigorous testing before including them in our software.  We are working as quickly and efficiently as we can.   For current information on forms availability please click on the applicable link below:

Form 8853 should be available February 18.

 

 

[Edited links | 2/18/2021 7:26am PST]

Level 2
February 17, 2022

Your availability list states that Form 8853 won't be available until 3/31/22. Why such a long delay? I have the 1099-LTC that provides me the information to complete this form, which is the only item holding up my filing.

Besides, the Block website indicates that this form is currently availability.  We are seniors and we would like to file as soon as possible.  Do I have to switch to Block to get my taxes filed?

Level 2
February 19, 2022

I called the IRS in DC last week. The lady told me 8853p2 was available two months ago?  

Level 3
February 20, 2022

This is ridiculous! A fairly common form - and they say it won't be available till the end of March! At least some of the competitors already have it available - why should we continue to use TurboTax when they can't get needed forms timely.

 

This on top of all of the issues with entering the activation code on many computers - this issue was around for LAST filing season and STILL has not been resolved!

Alumni - Champ
February 21, 2022

Please understand that the IRS must first approve TT's version (programming) of its form(s) before TT can release them.

 

@GaryCPA Are you a paid tax provider. If so, please note that TT is not licensed for your use.

Level 2
February 21, 2022

As Gary mentioned, several of the competitor's have form 8853 available, including Block, which I checked myself.  Why is TT asleep at the switch?

Level 2
February 24, 2022

TT appears to have dropped the ball when other tax software companies have the from 8853 approved for use.

With fraudulent claims becoming more common, especially for those filing later rather than sooner, I would think TT would push to get all needed forms ready ASAP. At a minimum TT should be advising users waiting for forms to be approved by the IRS to apply for a security PIN before someone else attempts to file a return in their name fraudulently. TT might even be proactive and add that feature to their software for us as an act of good faith?

Level 3
February 24, 2022

YEP! I just gave up and purchased H&R Block TaxAct. Transferring data to that now. Will not be coming back to Turbo Tax again! Between this LATE form (estimated March 31!) and the trouble entering the activation code screen - it's not worth it.

Level 2
February 24, 2022

I did the same thing. Filed my return 2 days ago and have received confirmation that my return has been accepted!
Forget TT!

Level 2
February 25, 2022

It is now February 25th and my tax return is all ready to file except for this form. It now says it won't be available until March 31st! I this for real? Is every person in the US that has a MSA going to have to wiat until after that date to file?

 

Level 3
February 25, 2022

@epace1

Switch to H&R Block like I did! TT has been my "go to" for many many years. Not any more. After all of the trouble getting the activation code to work (an issue that started about a year ago on last year's software - and STILL isn't fixed), now this -  I'm moving on! Luckily, after I complained about the activation code issue, they refunded my money, so I had no investment in my TT software. And the Block software is cheaper. Not sure I like the interface as well - but at least it works and the forms are available for use!

Level 2
February 26, 2022

So we are told to file early to reduce the risk of fraudulent filings and TT cant get a simple Form 8853 LTC completed so we can file.  Posts over the last several weeks have said mid February and know says 3/31/22. Really - How do we get a refund so we can use another tax service so we can file promptly? Long time TT user and this is a first especially given this the a simple form 8853 which the IRS has completed months ago. 

Level 12
February 27, 2022

It may take longer for one form or another to show up in TurboTax for multiple reasons. Our goal is to provide you with the most accurate information possible. As part of this process, we communicate often with the taxing agencies.
For up-to-date status please refer to the links below: 

 

IRS forms availability table for TurboTax individual (personal) tax products

State forms availability table for TurboTax individual (personal) tax products

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Level 3
February 27, 2022

@LindseyLO 

Still a "cop out" answer - you don't address why your competitors have the form 4-6 weeks before you do!

March 1, 2022

I made the mistake of paying for my taxes at the beginning of February because they originally had posted that Form 8853 would be available mid February. Then they all of a sudden changed it to END OF MARCH! I called requested a refund and they directed me to fill out an online form to request my money back. A week later I got a response saying I paid for it so can't get a refund, and that date was an "estimate". This company is essentially holding my taxes hostage, and I am VERY disappointed. I could have gone elsewhere and got my taxes done MUCH faster, I will NOT be making the mistake of coming back to Turbo Tax ever again!

Level 2
March 1, 2022

Along with many others I am very disappointed with TT at this point. It appears that TT statements on this are just a method of delay since other companies have the form completed.

Will look at other software for next year and maybe purchase from another company to get the filing done.

Level 2
March 2, 2022

This is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!!!  I've used TT for years.  I've had my taxes done and ready to file for over a MONTH now waiting on this stupid form!!  And now I have to wait another MONTH??  Think I'll spend my money with H&R block this year and from now on unless someone gives me a **bleep** good answer or a reason I should stay.

Level 2
March 4, 2022

Any update on the form being approved or do we need to wait until March 31?

DoninGA
Level 15
Level 15
March 4, 2022

@aragokw wrote:

Any update on the form being approved or do we need to wait until March 31?


Form 8853, Archer MSAs and Long-Term Care Insurance Contracts for tax year 2021 is estimated to be available in TurboTax on 03/31/2022

Go to this TurboTax website for IRS forms availability - https://care-cdn.prodsupportsite.a.intuit.com/forms-availability/turbotax_fed_online_individual.html

Level 2
March 4, 2022

I'm having the same problem with not being able to submit my taxes because of the lagging 8853 form.  I've used TT for many years and never had a problem like this but with sure make me think twice next year.   A form that the IRS had approved for a couple months but not approved or available in TT is unacceptable and not a good business model if you want to retain customers.  Mid February now the end of March?  What if it's not ready by the end of March?  Will the IRS forgive my late return (I do owe money) because TT has not made this a higher priority?  I think not.

Level 2
March 12, 2022

Ridiculous wait when other tax preparers already have firm 8853. Not at all acceptable and after using Turbo Tax for years and years I guess it’s time to change. Difficult to speak with anyone, disappointing and no good reason

DoninGA
Level 15
Level 15
March 12, 2022

@Goandgo5 wrote:

Ridiculous wait when other tax preparers already have firm 8853. Not at all acceptable and after using Turbo Tax for years and years I guess it’s time to change. Difficult to speak with anyone, disappointing and no good reason


Form 8853, Long-Term Care Insurance Contracts is scheduled to be available in TurboTax on 03/17/2022

Level 2
March 12, 2022

Is this date from a Turbo Tax rep who knows something new?