I formed a single member LLC in October of 2023 but chose my starting date as Jan. 1, 2024. Should I not file taxes for this LLC and claim the start up cost and expenses for 2023 next year 2024?
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Yes, that's right. If your start date is January 1, 2024, you don't need to include your LLC on your tax return until next year.
I am assuming that you had no business income and no expenses other than start-up costs.
If both of those are true, you can just include your 2023 start up expenses on your 2024 tax return.
Start-up expenses are the expenses you incur before you actually begin business operations. Your business start-up costs will depend on the type of business you are starting.
They may include:
You can elect to deduct up to $10,000 of business start-up costs and up to $5,000 of organizational costs.
Ok makes sense. My LLC was formed in Arizona on Oct. 16, 2023. Am I able to pick the start date or do I have to stay with the formation date? I was reading something about how you can file your LLC with AZ but choose to delay the formation date. I didn't do that because I was planning to start business in 2023 but life happens. My business just went live this year.
Since you had no business activity and you are filing as a single member LLC, you would not need to file anything for 2023, if you did not have any business conducted in 2023, other than applying for the LLC. Since all of your business income would be included on Schedule C, and you have no income to report, a Schedule C would not be needed.
Arizona follows the rules for the single member LLC being treated as an extension of you, therefore you would not need to include anything on your AZ return either.
thank you! I did have start up cost and expenses in 2023 like, Shopify theme, 800 number, google workspace etc. I didn't conduct and business or make any sales.
Then you'll save those expenses and - when you are doing your 2024 tax return - enter them as 'start up' expenses and you'll start deducting them next year.
@joshblackford wrote:
Ok makes sense. My LLC was formed in Arizona on Oct. 16, 2023. Am I able to pick the start date or do I have to stay with the formation date? I was reading something about how you can file your LLC with AZ but choose to delay the formation date. I didn't do that because I was planning to start business in 2023 but life happens. My business just went live this year.
Be aware that LLCs are creations of state law, and the IRS does not specifically recognize their existence. Instead, you will file based on the kind of business it is (sole proprietorship or partnership, depending on how many members in the LLC). As such, the IRS wants to see a business tax return for an ongoing trade or business, regardless of what you told the state when you registered.
Also note, this is different than choosing a different financial year for the business. If you want to do that, see a CPA before you do anything else. Your business financial year will run from Jan 1-Dec 31, regardless of what you told the state your start date would be or what your start date actually is.
If you are engaged in ongoing business activities (soliciting clients, doing work) then you file a tax return even if you have not been paid by your clients yet. (In most cases, you would file a schedule C with your personal 1040 for a single member LLC or a form 1065 partnership return for a multi-member LLC.)
However, if you are not engaged in ongoing business activities, then you don't file a business return. Save your startup expenses and report them the first year that you have ongoing business activities to report. Assets are listed for depreciation in the usual way. Other startup expenses may be deducted in the first year if they are less than $5000. If they are over $5000, they can be partly deducted in the first year and partly spread out over 15 years, according to a formula that Turbotax will calculate for you.
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