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Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

Hello.  I am a small business LLC partnership (my wife and I) using a home office 100% .  I am using Turbotax Business (1065) for the LLC, and turbotax premium for my 1040.   I found that the home office deduction has to be calculated in Turbotax Premium, not Turbotax Business.  That said, I went through entering the information, which appears to be redundant - as I already have it in Turbotax business.  The issue I am concerned with is entering the Gross sales AGAIN which increases taxes due - and feels like this is a duplicate of what I did in Turbotax Business.  Keep in mind I generate K1s for myself and my wife.

 

The question is:  How do I (in detail) claim my home office in my 1040 side (Turbotax). Do I just leave the gross sales "0", and keep going.  It' s asking for my EIC, and type of business. 

 

I want to avoid any "triggers" by the IRS by confusing reports of my business on a 1065 and 1040 --- in other words, avoiding duplication in my tax filing that generates questions. 

 

Thanks in advance for any help/guidance..

-WB

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RobertB4444
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Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

You have made a number of errors here and I'm going to do my best to help you untangle them but if you have already filed any of these tax returns you need to consult a tax professional in order to work this all out.

 

First, your LLC is not entitled to a home office deduction.  That deduction is reserved for self-employed sole-proprietorships and contractors.  That's why you aren't able to deduct it using TurboTax Business.

 

Second, when you are entering information about your business into TurboTax Premiere you are duplicating your business and essentially doubling your entries.  Delete all of the business entries that you have made into TurboTax Premiere.  

 

If you have a second business where you are earning money on the side then you can enter that business into TurboTax Premiere and take a home-office deduction against that business.  If the only business that you have is the LLC for which you are filing a 1065 then you are not entitled to a home-office deduction and you may not take it.

 

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RobertB4444
Employee Tax Expert

Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

You have made a number of errors here and I'm going to do my best to help you untangle them but if you have already filed any of these tax returns you need to consult a tax professional in order to work this all out.

 

First, your LLC is not entitled to a home office deduction.  That deduction is reserved for self-employed sole-proprietorships and contractors.  That's why you aren't able to deduct it using TurboTax Business.

 

Second, when you are entering information about your business into TurboTax Premiere you are duplicating your business and essentially doubling your entries.  Delete all of the business entries that you have made into TurboTax Premiere.  

 

If you have a second business where you are earning money on the side then you can enter that business into TurboTax Premiere and take a home-office deduction against that business.  If the only business that you have is the LLC for which you are filing a 1065 then you are not entitled to a home-office deduction and you may not take it.

 

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Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

Thank you for the clarification. Your first statement about the home office deduction makes complete sense now.. Luckily, I have not yet filed any taxes.. there are a few forms not approved I am waiting on through the updates...

 

Thank you again for your guidance..!  

-Bill

Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

Again, my thanks for the feedback.  I did find an interesting article - to which I am going to follow up on to insure it's (1) valid for 2022 FY and (2) does not "trigger" the IRS.  

Here's the subsection of the article, which speaks to LLCs (partner LLCs, which I have) and S Corps:

 

>>>Self-employed individuals whose businesses are set up as sole proprietorships routinely use the home-office deduction for expenses related to the business use of their homes. The deduction is available to those who use a portion of their homes regularly and exclusively for conducting business and for whom the home is their principal place of business. Taking the home office deduction is fairly simple when you’re a self-employed individual and file Schedule C. In those instances, you simply indicate on IRS Form 8829 the percentage of your home that is used for work and the costs to maintain your space, and that amount will go on your Schedule C as a deduction.

However, there are additional tests that those who use a home office in their role as an employee, and technically, when a business is set up as an S corporation rather than a sole proprietorship or partnership, the business owner will have an employment relationship with the corporation. The additional tests include a requirement that the business use of the property be for the convenience of the employer and that the employee must not rent any part of the home to the employer.

For shareholders of an S corporation or members of a partnership or multi-member LLC, while the calculation of the dollar amount is pretty much the same as the sole proprietorship, how it is treated on the shareholders’ or members’ personal tax returns differs. If you are a member of a partnership or multi-member LLC, then you deduct the expenses as unreimbursed partnership expenses on Schedule E of your personal tax return, below the line that you report your activity from the partnership or LLC.

S corporation shareholder-employees may deduct office-in-the-home expenses as miscellaneous itemized deductions on Schedule A of their personal tax returns. But these deductions are of little or no value because of the 2% income floor imposed on miscellaneous itemized deductions, and the add back of such deductions in computing alternative minimum taxable income. For many taxpayers, that makes the home-office deduction essentially useless.

Rather than claiming an office-in-the-home deduction as a miscellaneous itemized deduction, an S corporation shareholder-employee could have the corporation reimburse the expenses properly allocable to the business use of the home. Reimbursement of business expenses is provided for under Internal Revenue Code Section 132. Pursuant to regulations applicable to Section 132, out-of-pocket business expenses should be documented and reimbursed on a current, monthly basis. To accomplish this, we recommend that shareholders of the S corporation submit an expense report as part of what is called an “accountable plan”.

 

Again, my appreciation for the great feedback... More to follow

knead2
Returning Member

Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

Is this new in 2023 that you can't deduct the home office for LLC? I always did using a different program, and never had these questions about the % of usage there. Always did simple deduction of 1 of 9 rooms rather than square footage, added in utilities and it figured out the deduction for me.

MarilynG1
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Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

If you are a husband/wide LLC partnership and live in a Community Property state, you could consider filing two Schedule C's (one for each of you).  You would not need to file the 1065 return and issue K-1's in that case

 

You would then also be able to claim the Home Office Deduction.  You can use the % of Square Footage or the Rooms Method to calculate your Home Office %. The most exact way to calculate the business percentage of your house is to measure the square footage devoted to your home office as a percentage of the total area of your home. If the office measures 150 square feet, for example, and the total area of the house is 1,200 square feet, your business percentage would be 12.5%.

 

An easier calculation is acceptable if the rooms in your home are all about the same size. In that case, you can figure out the business percentage by dividing the number of rooms used in your business by the total number of rooms in the house.  Here's more info on the Home Office Deduction. 

 

Here's detailed info on Business Owned by Married Couple and more info from the IRS on Election for Married Couples Unincorporated Business.

 

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knead2
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Home office Deduction for an LLC partnership using Turbotax premium and Turbotax Business

My LLC is just me so maybe that's the difference. Thanks

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