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How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

Father has no income.  Mother has no income but is planning to start a job before the end of the 2017 year.  How much will Mother have to earn in order to receive either the EIC or the child care credit?

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How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

A low income person with child dependents and at least some income earned from working will be eligible for the child tax credit and the earned income credit.  The amounts are on a curve that goes up and down so earning more money will help you get a larger credit up to a point, then earning more income after that reduces the credit.  Exactly where the maximum credit will be depends on your income and other tax situations.

If the children and non-working parents are living with other relatives (grandparents, aunts and uncles) it can sometimes be more advantageous for the other relatives to claim the children as dependents.  We would need to know a lot more details first though.

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How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

EIC  $10 ... the CTC $3000

However who have you all been living with ?   Who has supported you?  Maybe they can claim some of you and get a better result.

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

I'm asking for my sister.  They rent a home that our parents own and each of their families or friends help them financially.  My sister's Husband doesn't have a taxed income and my sister was out of work due to her complicated pregnancy and then couldn't get back to work because of child care.  She is wanting to start working before the end of the year so that she has an income of some sort but she didn't know if it would make a difference.  She was looking to know if she would still receive the credits for their two children if she doesn't make much money within the next month and a half.

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

If they don't live with a relative and he has some untaxed income then they cannot be dependents of others.

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

Husband does not have "taxed income?"  Is he self-employed or working "under the table" for someone?  If he files a tax return to report his income they might qualify for child-related credits.
**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

He is paid "under the table".

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

That still must be claimed as income. Has he kept good records?

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

Your brother in law is legally required to report all his income and pay the proper tax even if the income is not reported by the employer.  He needs to keep his own accurate records of income and expenses.  If he is self-employed he can deduct his legitimate expenses.  If he is a regular employee he is probably being cheated out of other legally required benefits.  He is not building up social security credits, which will reduce his eligibility for disability coverage, retirement income, and spousal retirement benefits for his spouse.

The IRS has 7 years to audit you if you under-report your income or taxes by more than 25% and they can audit you forever if they allege fraud.  Let me give you a worst case scenario.  They get audited.  The IRS looks at their bank accounts and determines that every deposit that they can't prove was a gift or was the spouse's income, is his un-reported income.  If it's all cash, they look at the mortgage statements and credit card payments and credit reports and guesstimate how much they spend, and what his real income must have been.  Since there are no business records of expenses, no expense deductions are allowed.  The IRS assesses income tax owed based on evidence of income (without deductions); the minimum penalty in this kind of case is 25% for underpayment, plus 25% for intentionally filing inaccurate returns, plus an extra 1% per month back to when the taxes were due, plus interest on the whole amount (taxes plus penalties).  Some willful tax dodgers go to jail.   If not reporting income meant they were eligible for EIC, or for more EIC than they would have been, there is an automatic ban on future EIC for a minimum of 2 years.  And in tax court, unlike criminal court, you have to prove the IRS is wrong, the IRS doesn't have to prove they are right.  There is no innocent or injured spouse relief if they have been filing joint tax returns, and the IRS can collect from your sister, her husband, or both, even if they divorce.  They can have wages, pensions, bank accounts, and future social security garnished.  And if they do ever divorce, back taxes are collected from his income before child support is paid.

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

I didn't ask for the judgment.  This was a very RUDE and unnecessary response.  You did not answer my question in any way but instead are being a very unkind, judgmental (Removed) that does not even know the circumstances.  But thanks for pointing out how much of a (Removed) you are.  I hope that you're reminded of it 20 times today 🙂

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

The moment you said he was committing tax fraud by not reporting all his income you opened yourself up to the tongue lashing ... and I fully agree with Opus when he told you the unvarnished truth of his situation ... trust me, an economic audit is a terrifying event (and they can audit back several years which can be daunting) and your family really needs to reconsider their actions.  Please pass along the Domesday warning to them and encourage them to get on the up & up.
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How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

I was told if they are relatives they didn't need to live together. Only when you're trying to claim someone who is not related they must have lived with you.

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

@Nikki   There a different rules for the dependents & the HOH that are similar ... review the IRS pub 501 for those rules.

How much money must you earn for the year 2017 to claim your children as dependents and receive the credit?

A low income person with child dependents and at least some income earned from working will be eligible for the child tax credit and the earned income credit.  The amounts are on a curve that goes up and down so earning more money will help you get a larger credit up to a point, then earning more income after that reduces the credit.  Exactly where the maximum credit will be depends on your income and other tax situations.

If the children and non-working parents are living with other relatives (grandparents, aunts and uncles) it can sometimes be more advantageous for the other relatives to claim the children as dependents.  We would need to know a lot more details first though.

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