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Taxable social security worksheet

Most of the lines on the worksheet are blank except the bottom line.  When I calculate the taxable amount by hand I get a different amount than Turbo Tax.  Can't tell where the difference is because TT does not show all the lines.  How can I see the whole calculation.  (I think the difference has something to do with a 1099-misc but can't find anything on the worksheet relating to that.

 

Ron

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Taxable social security worksheet

I belatedly notice a tiny asterisk on line 20 and a note at the bottom SS Benefits Worksheet that led me to a different worksheet called Worksheets for Social Security Recipients Who Contribute to a Traditional IRA. On this there is a Worksheet 3 - Computation of Taxable Social Security Benefits (which is very similar to the SS Benefits Worksheet) and on this worksheet all the numbers do show.

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Taxable social security worksheet

This may not be helpful because we all have different items on our tax returns, but my line one on the Social Security Recipients Who Contribute to a Traditional IRA Worksheet was:

1040 Line 11 AGI less 1040 Line 6b Taxable amount of SS plus the amount I contributed to an IRA.

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JamesG1
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Taxable social security worksheet

In TurboTax Online, to view the complete calculation, the Social Security Benefits Worksheet is available in the tax return.

 

 

View the entries by selecting down the left side of the screen, Tax Tools / Print Center / Include government worksheets.

 

In TurboTax Desktop, select Forms in the upper right hand corner of the screen.

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Taxable social security worksheet

I am using the desktop  version.  I still am unable to see all the calculations.  Line 1 is listed correctly.  Lines 2 thru 19 are blank.  Then the final answer is on Line 20.  I need to see what's on lines 2-19, i.e. how the number on line 20 was calculated.

 

Ron

DaveF1006
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Taxable social security worksheet

To clarify, check your amount on 1040 line 6B. Is there an amount listed there? if not, then none of your Social Security income is taxable.

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Taxable social security worksheet

Yes, there is an amount there. Furthermore, if I remove the 1099-misc from my return in TT, I get the amount that I calculate manually for Line 20 on the worksheet, but still cannot see the details on lines 2-19 that shows where it came from.

 

Ron

DianeW777
Expert Alumni

Taxable social security worksheet

Below you can see the full calculation of the social security taxable amount.  When in Forms mode, click the document 'Social Sec' from the forms panel on left.  Image attached below.

 

You can compare your 1040 with the income figures shown on your worksheet to understand all the figures used to calculate your taxable social security amount.

 

 

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Taxable social security worksheet

I have done that.  The worksheet appears as you say, except lines 2-19 do not have amounts in them.  Therefore I cannot understand how line 20 came about!

 

 

DianeW777
Expert Alumni

Taxable social security worksheet

It may be advantageous for you to send a diagnostic file.  If you would like to send us a “diagnostic” file that has your “numbers” but not your personal information it would help.  If you would like to do this, here are the instructions: 

 

TurboTax Online:

Go to the black panel on the left side of your program and select Tax Tools. 

  1. Then select Tools below Tax Tools. 
  2. A window will pop up which says Tools Center.  
  3. On this screen, select Share my file with Agent. 
  4. You will see a message explaining what the diagnostic copy is.  Click okay through this screen and then you will get a Token number. 
  5. Reply to this thread with your Token number and your state. This will allow us to open a copy of your return without seeing any personal information.  

TurboTax CD/Download:

If you like, you can send a copy of your return that will be scrubbed to eliminate your personal data by using these steps:

  1. Click on Online in the top left menu of TurboTax CD/Download for Windows
  2. Select 'Send Tax File to Agent'
  3. Write down or send an image of your token number and state then place in this issue.
  4. We can then review your exact scenario for a solution.
  5. Please also tell us any states included in the return. This is necessary for us to view the return.

We will then be able to see exactly what you are seeing and we can determine what exactly is going on in your return and provide you with a resolution. 

 

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Taxable social security worksheet

There is no toolbar or black strip on the left of my program.  I'm using Download version for Mac

DawnC
Employee Tax Expert

Taxable social security worksheet

To send us a diagnostic file from the desktop, follow these instructions:

 

  1. Open your return.
  2. Click the Online tab in the black bar across the top of TurboTax and select “Send Tax File to Agent
  3. This will generate a message that a diagnostic copy will be created.  Click on OK and the tax file will be sanitized and transmitted to us.
  4. Please provide the Token Number that was generated in the response.  

@oatmealron 

 

 

 

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Taxable social security worksheet

I would really like to do this but there is no black bar across the top or side of my program.  I can see the regular bar that starts file..edit..etc

the next bar is forms..details...estimate etc

then personal info..fed tax..state tax etc

I double checked that I'm totally up to date.

Help

 

JohnB5677
Expert Alumni

Taxable social security worksheet

You can share your return with a specialist.

The return will be "sanitized", meaning all names, social security numbers and personal references are removed.

We will then be able to determine the source of the issue.

 

Do you have the Desktop version of TurboTax?

 

It has a different format than the Online version.

If that is the case the bar you are looking for is just above the red circle with the check mark.

  1. A black strip shows
    1. File  Edit  View  Forms  Tools  Online  Help
  2. Select Online
  3. Scroll down and select Send Tax File to Agent
  4. Hit Send
  5. You will get a seven-digit token number.
  6. You can save a copy if you wish

 

If you have the Online version

 

If you agree, please follow these steps:

  1. Log into your TurboTax account
  2. Go to Tax Tools
  3. Then select Tools
  4. On the pop-up screen select Share my file with an agent
  5. This will generate a message that a diagnostic file gets sanitized and transmitted to us.
  6. Please provide the Token number in a reply to this post.
  7. Include @JohnB5677 in your reply so that I get a notification.

                         

If I've misunderstood your question, and this does not completely answer it, please contact us again and provide some additional details.

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Taxable social security worksheet

I have the desktop deluxe version.

 

That bar says : File.Edit.View.Forms.Easy Step.Flags,Window, Help.

 

There is no ONLINE option

Taxable social security worksheet

NO.  I sent more information. My desktop deluxe version does not have a "online" option on the menu.

 

AnnetteB6
Employee Tax Expert

Taxable social security worksheet

If you happen to be using a Mac computer instead of a Windows computer, try looking under the Help option to send a file to an agent.

 

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