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AGA3
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My 17-year-old made over 8000 gross & has over 1200 intrest

is he still considered as being claimed as a dependent on someone else’s taxes?    If I do not claim him can he take the single full standard deduction ?

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My 17-year-old made over 8000 gross & has over 1200 intrest

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Due to the combination of interest income and work income, if the interest income is more than $1250 $400 (or if his other income was from self-employment) your son must file a return.  However, he is still your dependent unless he provided more than half his total financial support for the whole year.  He would check the box for "yes, I can be claimed as a dependent by another taxpayer."  Having a dependent earn some money usually does not prevent the parents from still claiming them as a dependent. 

 

Because of the rules on taxation of children with investment income, at least some of his interest income will be taxable. 

AGA3
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My 17-year-old made over 8000 gross & has over 1200 intrest

He has a W-2, if he can be claimed on somebody else’s tax return as a dependent then he will not get any of his tax return back and still owe taxes for federal and state.   Do I still have to claim his as a dependent?  Can he claim himself, and not claim that he can be claimed as a dependent?

My 17-year-old made over 8000 gross & has over 1200 intrest

Maybe. it depends. He must answer that he Can Be claimed. Then he can answer that he wasn't claimed as a dependent. then the next question is the person (s) who could claim you required to file a tax return. if YES  his standard deduction would be his earned income + 400.

 

if for some reason the last question is NO (unlikely since it would seem that the parent(s) or whoever can claim him would likely be required to file a tax return) then the first question is changed to NO and his standard deduction would be $13,850.

 

 

 

My 17-year-old made over 8000 gross & has over 1200 intrest


@AGA3 wrote:

He has a W-2, if he can be claimed on somebody else’s tax return as a dependent then he will not get any of his tax return back and still owe taxes for federal and state.   Do I still have to claim his as a dependent?  Can he claim himself, and not claim that he can be claimed as a dependent?


Sorry, my first answer was wrong.

 

Yes, he must file, he must say he is a dependent, and he must pay the tax.

 

This situation arises from his large interest income.  Congress has put in place laws that tax investment income of children, so that parents can't put investments in a child's name and have the interest be tax-free when it would have been taxable if the interest was in the parent's name.  As a result, your son's standard deduction is equal to his income earned from work plus $400, which means that $800 of the interest income is taxable.  The tax on that should be about $80 (10%).  It should not be higher.

 

See publication 501 under "filing requirements for dependents" (table 2) and "standard deduction for dependents" (table 8).

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf

 

Your son must answer "yes, I can be claimed as a dependent" if he can be claimed, even if he doesn't want to be claimed.  Failing to answer correctly to avoid paying tax could be considered fraud.  Also, if you don't claim your child, you will lose a $500 credit, against the $80 of tax he should owe.

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