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MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

I am MFJ for the first time and have completed Federal within TT online. We always planned to see the numbers both under MFS and MFJ in order to decide on our actual filing status.

 

I had assumed TT would evaluate MFS vs. MFJ filing status and show the numbers similar to the standard deduction vs. itemization screens. If it is evaluating it, the program has not given me any indication of that.

 

However, I am starting to get the impression that this is not possible without the TT desktop Forms screen "what-if" worksheet.

 

I wanted to confirm this here, because I would be shocked if TT online actually would not show you this comparison or at least evaluate it - this seems basic to tax minimization. Maybe I need to complete state first?

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MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

Sorry---no,  TT does not automatically do a comparison of MFS and MFJ for you.   Married filing jointly is almost always better.

 

It is not easy to compare MFJ to MFS using online TT but you can do it.  Since you only get one return for each account and user ID, you have to use 3 accounts and user ID’s—one for MFJ and two for each of the MFS returns.  Compare, choose, and file—and pay—accordingly.

 

It is much easier to do this comparison using the desktop version of TT installed from a CD or downloaded to your own computer.  You pay once for the software and you can prepare multiple returns easily, and it has a “what if” feature that allows comparisons.

 

 

WHAT IF…?

If you are using Desktop software:

  • With your return open, click Forms in the upper-right-hand corner
  • Click Open Form
  • In the Search area, type the word what. You should see the What If Worksheet listed, click to open it.

 

If you were legally married at the end of 2024 your filing choices are married filing jointly or married filing separately.

 

Married Filing Jointly is usually better, even if one spouse had little or no income. When you file a joint return, you and your spouse will get the married filing jointly standard deduction of $29,200 (+ $1550 for each spouse 65 or older)  for 2024. You are eligible for more credits including education credits, earned income credit, child and dependent care credit, and a larger income limit to receive the child tax credit. 

 

If you choose to file married filing separately, both spouses have to file the same way—either you both itemize or you both use standard deduction. Your tax rate will be higher than on a joint return.

 

 Some of the special rules for filing separately include: you cannot get earned income credit, education credits, adoption credits, or deductions for student loan interest. A higher percent of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Your limit for SALT (state and local taxes and sales tax) will be only $5000 per spouse. In many cases you will not be able to take the child and dependent care credit. The amount you can contribute to a retirement account will be affected. If you live in a community property state, you will be required to provide additional information regarding your spouse’s income. ( Community property states:  AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI)

 

 If  you are using online TurboTax to prepare your returns, you will need to prepare two separate returns and pay twice since with online, you get one return per fee.

 

 

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/marriage/should-you-and-your-spouse-file-taxes-jointly-or-separ...

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/income/getting-married-mean-taxes/L2Rgma...

 

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/taxation/married-filing-separately-commu...

 

And....if you do file a joint return, you are not permitted by the IRS to amend to MFS after the April 15, 2025 deadline.

 

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

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BrittanyS
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MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

There is no easy way to do the comparison in TurboTax Online.  You only get one return with the online account so you would have to create an account for each senerio.  One for MFJ and one for each of you as MFS.  The comparison is available in TurboTax Desktop.

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MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

Sorry---no,  TT does not automatically do a comparison of MFS and MFJ for you.   Married filing jointly is almost always better.

 

It is not easy to compare MFJ to MFS using online TT but you can do it.  Since you only get one return for each account and user ID, you have to use 3 accounts and user ID’s—one for MFJ and two for each of the MFS returns.  Compare, choose, and file—and pay—accordingly.

 

It is much easier to do this comparison using the desktop version of TT installed from a CD or downloaded to your own computer.  You pay once for the software and you can prepare multiple returns easily, and it has a “what if” feature that allows comparisons.

 

 

WHAT IF…?

If you are using Desktop software:

  • With your return open, click Forms in the upper-right-hand corner
  • Click Open Form
  • In the Search area, type the word what. You should see the What If Worksheet listed, click to open it.

 

If you were legally married at the end of 2024 your filing choices are married filing jointly or married filing separately.

 

Married Filing Jointly is usually better, even if one spouse had little or no income. When you file a joint return, you and your spouse will get the married filing jointly standard deduction of $29,200 (+ $1550 for each spouse 65 or older)  for 2024. You are eligible for more credits including education credits, earned income credit, child and dependent care credit, and a larger income limit to receive the child tax credit. 

 

If you choose to file married filing separately, both spouses have to file the same way—either you both itemize or you both use standard deduction. Your tax rate will be higher than on a joint return.

 

 Some of the special rules for filing separately include: you cannot get earned income credit, education credits, adoption credits, or deductions for student loan interest. A higher percent of your Social Security benefits may be taxable. Your limit for SALT (state and local taxes and sales tax) will be only $5000 per spouse. In many cases you will not be able to take the child and dependent care credit. The amount you can contribute to a retirement account will be affected. If you live in a community property state, you will be required to provide additional information regarding your spouse’s income. ( Community property states:  AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, WI)

 

 If  you are using online TurboTax to prepare your returns, you will need to prepare two separate returns and pay twice since with online, you get one return per fee.

 

 

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/marriage/should-you-and-your-spouse-file-taxes-jointly-or-separ...

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/income/getting-married-mean-taxes/L2Rgma...

 

 

https://ttlc.intuit.com/turbotax-support/en-us/help-article/taxation/married-filing-separately-commu...

 

And....if you do file a joint return, you are not permitted by the IRS to amend to MFS after the April 15, 2025 deadline.

 

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

I have destroyed and it seems like it shows a savindbof 500 by doing separate!

however there is no easy way to split the joint income specially in our Fidelity account s that have so many transactions!

is there any easy way to split the joint account!

 

it sucks!

BrittanyS
Expert Alumni

MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

You will not be able to import the transactions into the software.  You will have to split the transactions between the returns on how you agree to split them.  Unless you live in a community property state and then they will have to be split 50/50.  You may also run into the IRS sending a discripenacy notice based on how the financial institute reports the transactions to the IRS.  If both Social Security numbers are listed they IRS may not understand why there is a shortage on the return.  If you wish to continue to file this way you will want to contact the payer to see about having the accounts split. 

 

@Belendez1 

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MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

Thanks I figured that and way too many transactions! It truly sucks as the savings are $500! 
my husband took his RMD twice! 
Ready to kill him!

thanks

MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

Thank you!

MFJ vs MFS TurboTax online

Thanks!

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