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khurramch079
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Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

 
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Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

There is no way to waive your tax due, but you can set up an installment payment plan.  

Can I set up a payment plan for my taxes? (intuit.com)

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

Why do you think you will owe more tax?   Usually less income means less tax.   No you can't waive any tax you owe.   Do you mean something else?   Like change your withholding?  Maybe explain more.

khurramch079
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Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

Hi VolvoGirl

 

As i just checked my total income of all W2 till now is $165,000 and the total federal taxes that withheld is $11,666

I just did a tax refund estimator for 2022 using efile, and found that I owe taxes till now around $9955.00 next year when i will file my taxes

 

because i lost two jobs this year and currently working on last one, my wife didn't work and i have a dependent

 

that's why i am worried

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

@khurramch079 

You can probably knock $1000 off of that bill because the TurboTax estimator is still using 2020 tax laws, and the child tax credit was increased by $1000 for 2021 as part of the American rescue plan act, or $3600 if the child is age 5 or less.

 

Unfortunately, it appears that you were drastically under withheld. And again unfortunately, the IRS will take the position firstly that you owe what you owe, and secondly that you are responsible for your W-4 and your withholding, and if you are not withheld properly you are responsible for making additional estimated payments.  

 

Even if you pay in full with your tax return, the IRS will assess a penalty because you were supposed to be paying into the system as the year went along.  (And even if you made a large estimated payment now, the IRS would still likely assess a penalty because you did not pay enough into the system while you were working as the year was going along.)

 

The first thing you absolutely must do is file your tax return on time, because the penalty for late filing is substantially larger than the penalty for late payment. Pay as much as you can when you file your tax return. You can then go to the IRS website and request a payment plan. The IRS will charge you a nonrefundable fee, but that fee is the lowest if you request a payment plan online with the IRS, and not using a paper form and not going through a third-party.

 

I would also not include a penalty payment when you file your tax return. TurboTax may offer to calculate a penalty and you should decline that offer.  When the IRS send you an official penalty notice, you can request a first time penalty waiver if you have never owed a penalty before. You will still owe interest on the late payments because that can’t be waived, but the IRS will usually waive a penalty for a first-timer.

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

@khurramch079 

Also, make sure that you are taking any pre-tax adjustments to your paycheck into account.  If your gross pay was $165,000, but you were having pre-tax deductions for a 401(k) contribution or medical insurance, or a few other things, that reduces your taxable income and you should use the net taxable income figure in the estimator and not the gross.

khurramch079
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Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

Hi Opus

 

Thanks for the reply

 

i don’t have any previous penalties 

and i filed my taxes on time

i didn’t hide any income from IRS

 

I don’t have any pre-tax deductions or 401k

as i said earlier i have lost my jobs and that last job i am currently working 

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?


@khurramch079 wrote:

Hi Opus

 

Thanks for the reply

 

i don’t have any previous penalties 

and i filed my taxes on time

i didn’t hide any income from IRS

 

I don’t have any pre-tax deductions or 401k

as i said earlier i have lost my jobs and that last job i am currently working 


As I said, proper withholding was your responsibility, and there is no provision in the tax code for anyone to get tax forgiveness because their W-4 was wrong.  

 

If you used Turbotax or some other company's tax estimator, you might want to double check at the IRS web site here. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator

 

If your estimate is correct, it seems you will owe a substantial amount.  Pay as much as you can and request a payment plan for the rest. https://www.irs.gov/payments/payment-plans-installment-agreements

 

Here is the link to request penalty abatement.  It will be easier to get penalty relief if you don't pay the penalty up front (if one is calculated for you by Turbotax).  Wait for a bill, then apply for relief. https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/penalty-relief-due-to-first-time-penal...

 

Good luck.

khurramch079
Returning Member

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

Hi Opus

 

why i will get a tax penalty?

and what do you mean by bill

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

If you end up owing too much on your tax return (like over $1,000)  you may owe a penalty for not paying in during the year from withholding.  Turbo Tax may calculate a penalty on 1040 line 38 (for 2020).  It is just an estimated amount.  The IRS may send you a bill for more penalty or interest.  

khurramch079
Returning Member

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

Hi 

 

i don’t have any penalties for year 2020

 

i am asking for the next year 2022, when i file my tax year 2021

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

I know.  I just said line 38 for 2020 to show you where it would be.  It might be on a different line # for 2021 returns.  

khurramch079
Returning Member

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

Hi

 

As i said the tax estimator showed that i owe $9955 tax, so what should be the penalty?

 

can i waive that??

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?


@khurramch079 wrote:

Hi Opus

 

why i will get a tax penalty?

and what do you mean by bill


The tax system is supposed to be pay-as-you-go.  You are required to pay into the system during the entire year.  If you owe too much when you file your return, you can be assessed a penalty for not paying enough into the system during the year, even if you pay in full with your return.  

 

To avoid a penalty, you must owe less than $1000 when you file your return, or your payments into the system must be at least as much as your tax for 2020, or you must pay at least 90% of what you owe for 2021.  So if you think your tax will be $22,000 for 2021, you would need to pay at least into the system $20,000 before January 15, 2021.  If your withholding will be $11,666, then you would have to make an additional estimated payment of at least $8334 before January 15.  You get credit for that on your tax return.

 

If you can't make the payment, Turbotax will recognize that you under-paid, and will try to calculate a penalty to include in your tax payment.  Don't take the Turbotax calculated penalty.  Wait to see what the IRS does.

 

When you file your return, pay as much as you can.  If you can't pay it all, you can request a payment plan for the balance.  If the IRS determines you owe an underpayment penalty, they will mail you a bill.  At that time, you can ask for a waiver of the penalty.  Then, you will be charged interest every month on the unpaid part of your balance until you have paid your taxes in full.  If you don't ask for penalty relief, you will also be assessed an additional penalty amount on the unpaid balance of your tax bill until it is paid off.  

 

You can request penalty relief when you get your first bill with a penalty.  You can request relief as a first-timer (if you never owed a penalty before, getting your first penalty canceled should be pretty automatic) or you can request the penalty be canceled "for cause".  You will still be charged interest, because the IRS does not have the legal authority to waive the interest, but it would be recalculated to a lower amount if the penalty is canceled. 

 

The penalty amount is 0.5% per month of what you owe, going back to when you owed it.  For example, if you make no payments except your withholding and owe $10,000 when you file, the IRS will probably calculate that $2500 was due back in April 15, 2021, so from April 2021 to April 2022 that's 12 months so the penalty on that portion of the amount due would be $150.  Then you owed another $2500 on June 15, another $2500 on September 15, and the final $2500 on January 15. 2022.  So by April 15, 2022, if you make no additional payments, you could owe around $400 in penalties.  The IRS also charges interest on both the penalties and the overdue taxes.  It's a variable rate that is around 3-4% APR right now, so you would owe another $300 or so in interest by April 15, 2022, if your tax estimate is correct.  

 

Hi I have lost my job this year, and i think might I need to pay more taxes next year when i file my tax return. is there anyway i can waive the federal tax owe?

If you think you will owe a lot you can send in an estimated payment now.

 

Here are the blank Estimates and instructions…..

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040es.pdf

 

The 1040ES quarterly estimates are due April 15,  June 15, Sept 15 and Jan 18, 2022.  Your state will also have their own estimate forms.

 

Or you can pay directly on the IRS website https://www.irs.gov/payments

Be sure to pick the right kind of payment and year.....2021 Estimate

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