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HRP20
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Filing Jointly Living Separate in California

I read the IRS doesn't care about being Married, but living separately and still filing Jointly, but States vary. What is the Rule for California? Also, want to confirm whether listing both addresses is required or if the address is just about where to receive mail or does it indicate a primary residence, etc?

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Filing Jointly Living Separate in California

Are both homes in CA?  If both of you live and work in CA, owning a second home does not affect your ability to file a joint return for CA, even you live apart.   If you are filing a joint tax return, you do not have to tell CA you live at separate addresses.   You can file jointly no matter where you live -- apart or together.    Since you are filing ONE joint state tax return, use the address where you want the state to send a letter or a check to the two of you.  When you file jointly, your refund will  be in both names, and any mail sent to you will be for both of you.   The fact that you own a "second home" is irrelevant.

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Filing Jointly Living Separate in California

The only time you would have an issue is if you are living in separate states.    Different states have rules on what you can and can't do if you want to file jointly married and separately in the different states.  We would need to know what states both spouses live in.   But if both spouses live in California, even in different homes, there would be no problem filing jointly at the federal and state returns.  

HRP20
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Filing Jointly Living Separate in California

Yes both homes in California. We still see each other, but live separate as healthier for our relationship.

HRP20
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Filing Jointly Living Separate in California

We are also both over age 75 and retired.

Filing Jointly Living Separate in California


@HRP20 wrote:

Yes both homes in California. We still see each other, but live separate as healthier for our relationship.


If you are both permanent residents of California, you can file jointly if you prefer, and the state won't care that you live in separate homes.  The only issue might be that you will only have one address on your tax return, this is where you want tax-related mail to be sent.  It does not have to be the address where you live.  It can be either home, or a PO Box, or even a relative whom you trust.  

 

If you did want to file separately (married filing separately) then you would file MFS for both the federal and state, and you would each use your own address on your own return.

HRP20
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Filing Jointly Living Separate in California

Yes both homes in California. We still see each other, but live separate as healthier for our relationship. We are both over age 75 & retired. This topic came up because I need to sell my house and move to assisted living and my spouse thinks there's no way for me to get the Tax exemption for selling my house as my primary residence even though all utilities at my house are in my name I think should be proof even though he has always done our taxes and address lists his address for the Joint return.

Filing Jointly Living Separate in California


@HRP20 wrote:

Yes both homes in California. We still see each other, but live separate as healthier for our relationship. We are both over age 75 & retired. This topic came up because I need to sell my house and move to assisted living and my spouse thinks there's no way for me to get the Tax exemption for selling my house as my primary residence even though all utilities at my house are in my name I think should be proof even though he has always done our taxes and address lists his address for the Joint return.


Because you live in separate homes, you can claim an exclusion of up to the first $250,000 of capital gains as long as you owned the home at least 2 years and lived there as your main home for at least 2 of the past 5 years.  Or, if you owned the home less than 2 years or lived there less than 2 years, you can claim a partial exclusion if you are selling due to a "hardship" (which seems to be the case).

See publication 523.

https://www.irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-publication-523

 

You can't use the joint exclusion of $500,000, even if you file jointly, because you live apart.  But you can use your $250,000 exclusion on the home you live in, and this will not limit your spouse from using their exclusion if they want to sell their house now or later.  

 

What counts is whether or not you owned the home and lived in the home as your main residence.  This is not controlled by the fact that you used a different address on your tax return.  If audited, you would prove where you actually lived using things like utility bills, newspaper or telephone subscription, bills or statements from your doctor, pharmacy, credit cards, etc. showing where you live, and so on.  

 

Your spouse is over-thinking.  

 

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