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FBAR/FinCEN 114 and currency exchange services
Hello, I am a US expat living in France.
Over the years, I have reported my foreign bank accounts consistently on the FBAR/FinCEN 114, but now I am concerned that I should be reporting my use of Wise (formerly TransferWise) to make occasional currency exchange transfers between my bank account in France and the US.
Note, I do not have a Wise Borderless account where one can hold a balance. Rather, when I want to make a transfer, I wire money to one of Wise's bank accounts (from my French account which is already reported on my FBAR). Wise then makes the transfer between their own accounts and credits my bank in the US.
To be safe, I am planning to report my use of Wise on the FBAR, but I am wondering what I should put as the maximum account value? Should it correspond to the maximum amount that I have transfered in a given year? Or is it more accurate to say the value is zero, given that I do not have a financial account with them that actually holds a balance?
Any insights would be appreciated. Thank you.
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FBAR/FinCEN 114 and currency exchange services
@MonsieurMD , from your post and information of how WISE works for a standard account, what I get is that WISE facilities that you are using is like Western Union of old time. It is a conduit for transferring monies between two bank accounts in two countries ( in your case ). Thus it is NOT a bank account in the traditional sense of the word ( not a savings / checking / investment ) financial account. Even in the extreme case where you transfer say $10, 000 from your French Savings account ( already reported under FBAR ) to your bank account in Australia ( also reported on FBAR ) where for some reason the withdrawal takes place immediately but is not completed/ deposited for a week ( thus monies rested in your WISE account for a week ), it still does not require reporting because it is still a conduit., perhaps a slow one Therefore I do not believe this type of account comes under the purview of FBAR or FATCA regulations.
On the other hand if you had the type called "account without borders " where monies actually are held and can be withdrawn in any of the allowed / supported currencies , it would need to be reported because it is not behaving as conduit -- it is just an account where monies are held in one denominated currency and can be withdrawn/credited in any other denominated currency -- thus meeting the definition of a normal bank/financial account that you control. This would have to be reported for FBAR/FATCA purposes.
Does this make sense ?
Is there more I can do for you ?
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Thank you pk, that makes a lot of good sense to me!
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