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This may be a rather unusual issue. At least I haven't been able to find any answers. Our mom died in November of 2019. At the time, the only real asset was her home, which she had taken out a reverse mortgage on. Since none of us had the money to pay off the mortgage, and the home value was equal to or less than the amount owed, we opted to tell the mortgage company it was all theirs and didn't do any probate. Fast forward to June of 2021. We were contacted by a realtor about selling the house. We told her that we had released it to the mortgage company. She then told us that the property was still listed as belonging to her estate, so we could sell it. I contacted the mortgage company and found out that was true because of the moratorium on foreclosures. So, we decided to sell and had an offer almost immediately. We then discovered we would have to go through probate. Started that and closed on the sale in September, and paid off the mortgage. The rest of the money was deposited in an estate account. Probate will close this month (January 2022). I know I, as the personal representative, will need to file Form 1041. The issue is that the proceeds from the sale and the probate lawyer fees won't be paid out until this year(2022). Will I have to file for both 2021 and 2022? How does that work when the estate funds won't be distributed until this year? After the lawyer fees and distributions there will only be a couple of thousand in Capital Gains. But, if I have to file for 2021, before that is distributed, will I have to pay taxes on the entire difference between the selling price and the value of the property at the time of her death, without being able to deduct the lawyer costs and distribution to the heirs? Can I use a fiscal year even though the date of death is over 2 years ago? If I can use a fiscal year, how do I handle the 1099 for the lawyer and the K-1's for the heirs? 

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Estate Tax

You really do need to consult with local legal counsel and a local tax professional.

 

See https://taxexperts.naea.org/listing/service/estates-gifts-trusts

 

See https://www.avvo.com/estate-planning-lawyer.html

 

 

Regardless, and generally, an estate is not required to file an income tax return unless it has gross income of $600 or more for the tax year.

 

See https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1041#idm140229151947712

 

 

Further, irrespective of the date of death, the personal representative (or individual responsible for filing a Form 1041 for the estate) can select a fiscal year when the estate files its first income tax return.

 

See https://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1041#idm140229123435296

 

 

1099s are based upon calendar years, so you would issue any required 1099 in the calendar year in which the proceeds are paid.

 

The K-1s will follow the ending date of the estate's tax year.

Estate Tax

why would you file in 2021 ??

you are closing in 2022. That is the Date Disposed on the property.

 

It sounds like you came out ahead, with no problems.

Estate Tax


@fanfare wrote:

why would you file in 2021 ??

you are closing in 2022. That is the Date Disposed on the property.


Read the post. @cferg stated that the sale closed in September of 2021.

Estate Tax

Thank you. That is what I was thinking, but some of the stuff I read made it sound like I needed to file for 2021 also, because that is when the proceeds from the sale of her house was deposited in the estate account.

Estate Tax

Oops.

Estate Tax

Thank you. The ability to use a fiscal year will solve the problem. I just wasn't sure if the fact that she passed away in 2019, but we didn't do probate until 2021 made a difference. I am able to fill out all of the forms. My question was just because of the timing of the whole situation. We didn't even realize we still had any option to sell the property until June of 2021. Until then, we just figured it had been foreclosed on and was now the property of the lender. We do have a probate lawyer. He just seems to think we should also hire an accountant. As I said, I am capable of filling out the forms, I do the bookkeeping for my husband's business. I was just confused about the timing.

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