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Changing from MFJ to MFS in a community property state

To date married couple has always filed MFJ. Wife has used TT CD to file each year in the course of the marriage (over 5 years).

 

During 2023 the husband established an LLC for an activity that the wife considers a hobby and not a viable business.  The hobby/business activity resulted in expenses but zero income.  Wife will not sign any tax return for which she feels she cannot defend or is otherwise "shady". This is why we decided to change to MFS for our 2023 return(s).

 

We live in a community property state, a state for which there is no State Income Taxation.  

We own a house and pay property taxes and mortgage interest.

There are no children, no educational deductions/credits, no rental income, and no contributions to any retirement accounts (IRAs, Roths, 401k etc).

 

Husband has W-2 income and Social Security Income. He sold stock he has in a privately held company that was established post-marriage several years ago using pre-marriage non-cash assets.  He also has what might be called Pass-through income ($0) and expenses (several thousands) from his LLC. He has under $50 in Div/Int income from banks.

 

Wife has a very small amount on W-2. She has 1099-R distributions from retirement accounts that she fully funded pre-marriage, and has had 20% withheld in Fed taxes on the distributions.  She also has tens of thousands in LT Cap Gains from a partnership that she had ownership of pre-marriage. She has under $50 in Div/Int income from banks.

 

Originally I thought that if we did MFS husband would "take" his items on his MFS return and wife would "take" hers on her own MFS return, with no splitting of W-2 income, 1099-R income, LLC pass-through income/losses, and federal withholdings.

 

As I read through information on filing MFS while living in a community property state, it's clear that doing so is a real headache. 

 

What are the options when one spouse refuses to sign a joint tax return for the couple?

 

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Changing from MFJ to MFS in a community property state

Maybe before you end up on "Dr. Phil" over the startup costs of the new business---have your spouse do some reading:

 

Click this link for more info on Startup Expenses and How to Enter Startup Costs in TurboTax. 

 

 

Perhaps she can be convinced to file a joint return.

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**

Changing from MFJ to MFS in a community property state

'Love the Dr. Phil comment.

 

Unfortunately there is disagreement on what constitutes true start-up costs vs. stretching the truth by quite a ways.

 

One of us is rather conservative with IRC rules and the other views the Code as 'suggestions'.  Were there no chance of an audit, ever, we would be fine.

 

Any other suggestions by anyone that reviewed the details I provided?

Changing from MFJ to MFS in a community property state

You asked "What are the options when one spouse refuses to sign a joint tax return for the couple?   

 

If you are legally married and one spouse refuses to file jointly, then your only other option is married filing separately -- as unpleasant as that will be.

 

**Disclaimer: Every effort has been made to offer the most correct information possible. The poster disclaims any legal responsibility for the accuracy of the information that is contained in this post.**
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