There are 2 cryptocurrency exchange accounts. 1 is under my dad's ID/SSN, and the other is mine which is under my ID/SSN. He bought the crypto and then transferred them to my account. We agreed that all the money was his and he told me what to sell/buy which I made many transactions in my account then transferred almost everything back to his account. In other words, he took control of my account. Does my dad report all the transactions but not me?
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While I generally am in agreement with x2rrm, to the extent this "investment" is to be treated as a gift; the post above seems to imply that the son's trading account was set up based on personal id and not SSN. If that is so then was there a 1099 issued at the end of the year ?
BTW -- this same post was discussed in detail earlier in the year with exact same scenario -- perhaps that was only investigation of "what if" and now it is real-- yes?
What I am getting out of this is that the father has an account and so does the son. Father made a purchase through his account and transferred the holdings to Son's account. The father used the account ( son's account)-- ( why?) to trade/ buy/sell and when all done transferred the holdings ( original plus profits? ) back to his own account. Who pays the tax on the gains.
In this above scenario, there are three entities involved -- the IRS ( and the state), the father and the son From the IRS standpoint ( taxing authority), it is not important who pays the taxes, but of course they would want if from the person with the highest earnings ( if the facts and circumstances allow it ).
The problem here is (a) it is unclear the motivation of the father for using his own account to purchase and then use son'e account to buy/sell -- ( belief or ? ) (b) nor is it clear why the son allowed the father to operate his ( son's ) account
To me the simplest way to look at it is that this was father's investment, no matter which account used for completing transaction ( since he never gave up control of the investment, even if the son was doing the actual transaction) -- it is no different that a traditional investor using an agent, say at Morgan Stanley, whom he directs the actions to be taken -- the only difference being that his own SSN is linked all throughout. ( but I do not believe that rises to labeling this as gift or loan to the son ). If the son was acting as an agent ( lending use of his account ) for the father, then all he has to do is to issue a 1099 to the father detailing the transaction and thus letting the owner of the investment pay the taxes.
That is my view
While I generally am in agreement with x2rrm, to the extent this "investment" is to be treated as a gift; the post above seems to imply that the son's trading account was set up based on personal id and not SSN. If that is so then was there a 1099 issued at the end of the year ?
BTW -- this same post was discussed in detail earlier in the year with exact same scenario -- perhaps that was only investigation of "what if" and now it is real-- yes?
What I am getting out of this is that the father has an account and so does the son. Father made a purchase through his account and transferred the holdings to Son's account. The father used the account ( son's account)-- ( why?) to trade/ buy/sell and when all done transferred the holdings ( original plus profits? ) back to his own account. Who pays the tax on the gains.
In this above scenario, there are three entities involved -- the IRS ( and the state), the father and the son From the IRS standpoint ( taxing authority), it is not important who pays the taxes, but of course they would want if from the person with the highest earnings ( if the facts and circumstances allow it ).
The problem here is (a) it is unclear the motivation of the father for using his own account to purchase and then use son'e account to buy/sell -- ( belief or ? ) (b) nor is it clear why the son allowed the father to operate his ( son's ) account
To me the simplest way to look at it is that this was father's investment, no matter which account used for completing transaction ( since he never gave up control of the investment, even if the son was doing the actual transaction) -- it is no different that a traditional investor using an agent, say at Morgan Stanley, whom he directs the actions to be taken -- the only difference being that his own SSN is linked all throughout. ( but I do not believe that rises to labeling this as gift or loan to the son ). If the son was acting as an agent ( lending use of his account ) for the father, then all he has to do is to issue a 1099 to the father detailing the transaction and thus letting the owner of the investment pay the taxes.
That is my view
It depends on whose SSN the cryptocurrencies were sold under. If it was yours then the gain/loss is reported under your account. The transfers would be considered as gifts.
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