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I am a minister and my denomination got out of the healthcare coverage business so each person has to go out and get their won insurance. My church gave me a stipend to go out and use to pay for healthcare. I qualify for a healthcare.gov plan that is subsidized. I still pay $1000 a month on premiums to cover the family. Is it better to have the church pay for the premiums and not report the stipend as income which is taxed or should I take the stipend, pay for my healthcare out of pocket and then itemize and enter the cost of the healthcare which will total $12000 by the end of the year. Or does it not matter, either way will work and I will pay the same amount of tax whether I tax the stipend or allow the church to pay for my healthcare directly to my healthcare providers?
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From the information you provided in your question it appears that you have received a stipend from your church for use in paying you health insurance premiums.
How was this stipend reported for tax purposes?
You said you qualified for the healthcare.gov insurance.
Did you purchase insurance through the marketplace?
If you did purchase insurance through the market place did you receive a Form 1095-A?
The answer to these questions will impact how to report your insurance payments.
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Better for whom?
Plan 1. The church goes out to a local insurance company and purchases a "group" employee plan where the group has 1 person, you (assuming there is an insurance company that will sell such a plan). The church pays the premiums, this is a tax-free employee benefit. The church pays all the premiums, or part of the premiums and deducts the other part from your pay pre-tax, depending on how much the church wants to pay and how much you want to pay.
Plan 2. The church puts it all on your shoulders to find insurance. They give you a pay supplement, which is part of your taxable income. You buy your own private insurance. You might or might not qualify for an ACA subsidy. Amounts you pay for premiums are deductible as itemized schedule A tax deductions, but you might or might not benefit, depending on your other itemized deductions and your overall income.
Which is better, is impossible to calculate. There are too many variables. Plan 1 is a lot more paperwork for the church, I know, I was a church treasurer that did this. Plan 1 is no money out of your pocket, if the church picks up the entire premium cost. But how much would it be? Suppose the church is willing to pay $1000 per month for your coverage. Will you get better coverage if the church buys a $1000 group employee plan, or will you get better coverage buying your own plan? If the church got a plan that would cost $600 per month, would they pay you the other $400 as salary to help you cover out of pocket expenses and co-pays. What if you want a gold plan but the church is only willing to pay for silver?
Most of the time, plan 1 is probably better for the pastor, although it's worse for the church. (Plus, if the church attempts plan 1 and screws up, they can be fined as much as $100 per day.)
The church is much better off with plan 2, raising your salary and leaving the insurance issue to you. It may be better for you, depending on your other financial arrangements, since you might qualify for a subsidy. You buy what you want, and if you can't afford it, you can ask for a raise, but you don't have to negotiate more complex details like deductibles and co-pays with your board of elders. And if your spouse becomes eligible for employee insurance at their job, you can keep your raise and spend it on other things.
If your church is willing to try plan 1, you will need to talk to them about what plans are available at what cost, level of deductibles and co-pays, and who will pay what part of the premiums, deductibles and co-pays. You would need a really smart accountant to work with you and your exact numbers to work out your tax impact.
The church can't pay your personal premiums for ACA insurance, that is a huge ACA violation subject to penalties of $100 per day.
The only legal options are, as I wrote in more detail,
1. The church buys a group employee plan (where the group has 1 member) and pays part or all of the premiums as an employee benefit. They can deduct your share of the premiums pre-tax. Or,
2. The church requires you to buy after-tax insurance on the Marketplace. The church may give you a salary supplement to assist you, but it must be part of your taxable wages. You are then free to buy a plan, claim a subsidy if you qualify, and deduct your out of pocket costs on schedule A.
This is a good resource I should have posted before.
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