2134843
I have a 1099 Misc that is for when employed I declined to receive pay increases until retirement and the 1099 is for that. It should have taxes taken out but doesn't, It DOES NOT fall under any of your choices. Last year I had to talk to someone and this was a lengthy call. He created some entry and it came out on Schedule C Line 9. Year before I kept it as just Misc and I ended up paying a penalty as no taxes were taken from it. Your descriptions of farm work, etc. just doesn't work and there are no expenses.
Thanks - Karen
You'll need to sign in or create an account to connect with an expert.
You said, " I have a 1099 Misc that is for when employed I declined to receive pay increases until retirement and the 1099 is for that."
It is for pay raises that you declined but that were paid to you anyway? That is either W-2 or 1099-MISC income. If reported on a 1099-MISC for 2020, what box is the income in. Were you paid by 1099-MISC instead of 1099-NEC? There seems to be some missing information. Can you clarify?
It is on a 1099 Miscellaneous Income from. Box #3 Other Income is the only box with a dollar amount in. All other boxes are empty. It should have taxes taken out of it. The one time I used Turbo and put it in as 1099 Misc and also answered all the questions regard farming - self employment negative then no taxes were taken out and I got a penalty. Last year I called and after a very lengthy time a person had to go on to my computer and went thru several steps to put it in with a code. That worked as taxes were taken out.
I want an answer that can be used every year without having to go thru this.
I don't think there is an answer to how you report this every year (the way you want to) since it sounds as if the earnings shouldn't be handled this way.
The issue I see is that the amount received is for work you performed as a W-2 employee, in which case your employer should have reported in on your W-2.
Why does this matter?
As an employee, both you and your employer contribute to your FICA tax (Social Security account). The pay and the tax paid is listed on a W-2.
In your case you want the pay listed on a 1099, and it sounds like you are willing to pay the tax (federal income tax and/or FICA ? ) but if you don't file Schedule C, the federal tax could be reported, but the FICA won't be computed correctly. The half the employer pays won't be paid. The half calculated from the self-employment income won't be computed.
The IRS allows for situations where a Taxpayer may get a 1099 and pay income tax on that amount, but not for a situation that occurs year after year. The exceptions pertain to things like prizes, fellowships, and stipends. Not pay earned for working as an employee.
You have what is known as a “nonqualified deferred compensation“ plan, or NQDC. Although this does not help you file your tax return, I did find this information from the IRS which indicates two things.
1. The employer was required to pay Social Security and Medicare tax at the time you performed the work that resulted in you earning this money, even though it was not paid to you at that time.
2. The employer is required to withhold income tax at the time the money is actually paid to you.
If your employer was doing this correctly, they would reduce the compensation paid to you by the amount of the Social Security taxes, and they would withhold income tax. For example, if the amount of deferred compensation was $1000, the employer would actually pay you $923, because they already withheld and paid the $76.50 of Social Security and Medicare tax. Then, they would give you a W-2 that shows $935 of gross wages in box 1, some amount of federal tax withholding in box 2, and boxes three through six would be blank or zero.
Because we don’t know if the employer already paid the Social Security and Medicare tax, I don’t think we can assume that they did, since they are not paying the rest of the deferred compensation correctly. I would also say that your employer should be responsible for the penalty that you paid, and not you, because they were required to withhold income taxes.
We can tell you how to fill out a form 8919 for uncollected Social Security tax, but it isn’t really meant for this situation. Depending on how much money is involved and how much longer this arrangement is going to go on, you may want to see a professional accountant and discuss this with your former employer or file a complaint with your state labor board.
When you enter the 1099–MISC, there should be a listing of special circumstances, and one of those circumstances should say something like, “my employer gave me a W-2 and 1099 and this income should have been on my W-2“. That will cause TurboTax to fill out form 8919 so that you can pay the employee half of Social Security and Medicare. It is likely that you will again owe an underpayment or late payment penalty if you did not have income taxes withheld from this money during the year.
There is also a way to appeal this penalty, although the best appeal is the “first time“ appeal, which you would have to use with relation to the first time you were charged this penalty and not this year.
If this relationship is going to continue and you are not going to take steps to correct the matter with your employer, then you should start making estimated tax payments to avoid future penalties.
Still have questions?
Questions are answered within a few hours on average.
Post a Question*Must create login to post
Ask questions and learn more about your taxes and finances.
afernandezcmu
New Member
Davidbike2
New Member
Davidbike2
New Member
ningji
Level 2
srtadi
Returning Member