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4saul
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I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

Thank you very much for this additional information, but I am having trouble understanding your steps.  I can't seem to get to a screen that has "any items not covered". Under the Federal Taxes tab, there is Rental Real Estate button and an Income button, if I choose the Income button, there is a Asset Disposal, but I was not able to find an Assets/depreciations.  This is TT:Business (not premiere or other)

I do appreciate the suggestions
hbbenzur
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I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

If I understand correctly you're doing a 1065 for a real estate partnership that sold its property Dec '16 and reinvested the proceeds in new property in Jan '17.  If so, the relevant input would be under Rental Real Estate not in About your Business.  Please respond for further details.
4saul
New Member

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

Correct, that is where I am doing it (under Rental Real Estate), I was trying to understand what Stuart.bunstock suggested and was getting lost. The issues is I can see the form 8824 has the Deferred Gain on line 24 (which is correct), but on the K-1 I am getting a gain from Form 4794 (sale or exchange of Property) Line 7 that is getting transferred to the Form 1065 Lines 9c and 10

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

So my suggestion regards a 1030 exchange of Rental Property.  The TT instructions are not very clear, so it is easy (and wrong) to check the box indicating you disposed of the property to be sold as part of the exchange.  It is important to remember that for Tax Purposes… you are NOT selling the property, you are exchanging it.  That said, if you do check that box, I believe TT will auto fill some areas that need to be blank.  To clear those areas (the boxes in “Sales Information”.
So to check that the SALES INFORMATION boxes are blank:  
Click on the main BUSINESS tab, (to the right of personal info), CONTINUE, then select I’LL CHOOSE WHAT I WORK ON.  That leads you to a page called LET’S GATHER YOUR BUSINESS INFO. Scroll down to RENTAL PROERTIES AND ROYALITES.  Choose UPDATE; YES at INCOME FROM RENTALS… ; answer questions; then at RENTAL AND ROYALTY SUMMARY choose the property I the 1031-exchange that you are “giving up”, Choose EDIT; choose UPDATE  for ASSETS/DEPRECIATION; choose YES I WANT TO GO TO MY ASSET SUMMARY; CONTINUE; @ YOUR PROPERTY ASSETS choose EDIT for the property you are “giving up”.
Make sure the cost is the original “Unadjusted” cost (the purchase amount (this includes value of land) plus costs to purchase.  Note: last year’s Schedule E worksheet for the property shows this COST (NET OF LAND), and previous years’ depreciations, and that years depreciation.  The COST field value here is the original cost of land plus the COST (NET OF LAND).  To get the Prior depreciation, you add the previous years’ depreciation, that year’s depreciation, and the depreciation for this tax year.  
The choose CONTINUE.  At DID YOU STOP USING THIS ASSETT IN2016 and NO (not real intuitive; but remember you are not “selling”, you are “exchanging”).  Answer questions, then navigate to HOME SALE and choose NO;
Here are the infamous blocks that need to be blank.  They are found here, at SALES INFORMATION.  Make sure these are blank, and all is well. (Your see your taxes owed change to a big credit).
Then it just details:  Make sure the other info is right; Click on the main BUSINESS tab, (to the right of personal info), CONTINUE, then select I’LL CHOOSE WHAT I WORK ON.  That leads you to a page called LET’S GATHER YOUR BUSINESS INFO. Scroll down to LESS COMMON BUSINESS SITUATIONS and select UPDATE for SALES OF BUSINESS PROPERTY.  On page ANY OTHER PROPERTY SALES? Check ANY ADDITIONAL LIKE-KIND EXCHANGES (SECTON 1031), then CONTINUE.  That takes you to page LIKE-KIND EXCHANGES; make sure to CHECK  the THE LIKE-KIND PROPERTY I EXCHANGED WAS USED IN.  Here you input the adjusted basis for the property for are “giving up”; (note: the values are pro-rated proportionally if more than one “replacement” property is involved.  In my case I bout to identical duplexes, with exact same costs and purchase amounts, so it was easy; I just input half the total amounts in these boxes.).
Then select CONTINUE to navigate to LIKE-KIND PROPERTY RECEIVED and put in the full amount of the purchase price.  CONTINUE.  Answer next few questions, and put in the “proportionate amount of expenses” for this purchase (the proportionate costs to sell, plus the costs to buy the new property). Answer the next few questions. In a few screens – at YOUR LIKE-KIND EXCHANGE RESULTS: DEFFERED GAINS” TT will show your deferred gains, and then CONTINUE ... @ NEW PROPERTY BASIS … TT shows the new property Tax Basis; (note this amount includes the land value, so you will have to break that out later when you return to that property detail area --back at the LET’S GATHER BUSINESS INFO, then RENTAL PROPERTIES AND ROYALTIES” area) to input the land value and new “Unadjusted Tax Basis for the Improvements”.  
To do that navigate by choosing: UPDATE, answer YES to review your rental and royalty info, answer questions, then at RENTAL AND ROYALTY SUMMARY select the subject property to EDIT, then select ASSETS/DEPRECIATION;…  UPDATE; select “Yes, I want to go to my asset summary”, CONTINUE; select EDIT at the property; choose type (RENTAL RE PROPERTY), CONTINUE; choose RESIDENTIL RENTAL RE, CONTINUE. Here is where you put in the new property Tax Basis (at COST), and breakout the land portion just below.  Answer questions.  If multiple properties, then repeat for each.
4saul
New Member

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

Please confirm which version of TT you are using, I think you have TT: Home and Business (Sole Proprieter LLC)?  I am using TT: Business, thanks for being so specific with the directions, because it allowed me to I think identify that we have different products!

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

yes, I am using TT: Home and Business.  I would thin that the concepts are the same though --- if not the navigation.
hbbenzur
New Member

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

This is a tough one 4saul.  I had the same problem you had and could not figure why.  What I did was delete all of the related forms  and reenter the info and that fixed the problem.  It seems like a glitch and you may have to reenter the info.

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

I believe that once you accidently select the Sale of the property TT auto fills in those 4 boxes.  When yo uncheck the Sale of the property those four boxes remained filled in, so you have to manually delete them.  Or you could start over and be very careful not to select the sale of property box.  Definitely a glitch!
4saul
New Member

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

Yes, a glitch, this is ultimately what I ended up doing, completely backing out the exchange, that seems to remove the all the forms, restarted the exchange and each step checked that the 4794 did not show up again, and then when I completed it, there was no cap gains on the K-1.  Thanks to all, I probably would have gotten there eventually!  I will try to close this out directly with TurboTax Support since I have a call in with them also.

Now I just need to understand FMV determination better to provide the best "defensible" numbers for the relinquished and received properties.  If anyone has good suggestions for that, I would be grateful for the information.

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

FMV is essentially what you paid for it.  If you had an appraisal done, and it is close to the amount you paid, then FMV is "right there".
Anonymous
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I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

@stuart.bunstock - you saved me - in 2017 this issue persists - your workaround instructions starting with "So my suggestion regards a 1030 exchange of Rental Property..,...." were complete and worked. Thanks so much!

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

Thanks for the detailed instructions, i was fighting that 1031 for hours. The KEY was NOT to check Sold property box in businesses sold section, and understanding property was NOT Technically sold but REPLACED.
xchen002
New Member

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

Where to enter the selling date of old property, right now TT take full year depreciation for old property even the selling date is in Feb 2018.  Thanks
thj3
New Member

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

@stuart.bunstock  i think your really helpful info needs 1 tweak.  i assume i can only depreciate my relinquished property until i gave it up.  if so, i think you need to say "YES" to "DID YOU STOP USING THIS ASSET IN 2018?" On the next page you enter the disposition date on the "DISPOSITION SUMMARY" page.  BUT, as you point out, you don't enter the sales $ info in the infamous 4 boxes.  There's a note on the DISPOSITION SUMMARY page that says "“Enter only the date of sale or disposition for this property if you disposed of this asset in any of the following situations .. - You traded this asset for like-kind property.”  This sound right?  BTW I'm using TT:Home& Business 2018

I'm doing a 1031 exchange. TT populated form 8824 and told me I had a deferred gain that was not taxable this year, so why is it shown as a taxable gain on sch D line 11?

@Stuart.bunstock Thank you!!! Here we are at 4/2019 and the 1031 exchanges of rental property in turbotax are still causing ulcers. Your well-detailed explanation saved me after days of back and forth with TT support and frustration. You're a peach.
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