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ttuser81
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I had some foreign (India) bonds which were purchased in 2011 and matured in 2016. I gained some money on maturity. Where should I report the same - under interests or under investment sales?

If I need to report them under interests, which box (in form 1099-int) I should use to fill in the money I gained on maturity of bonds?
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GeoffreyG
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I had some foreign (India) bonds which were purchased in 2011 and matured in 2016. I gained some money on maturity. Where should I report the same - under interests or under investment sales?

That is a very good question.  The answer to is that you should report your interest income earned on your Indian bonds as taxable interest on your United States tax return (through the Form 1099-INT interest income interview, even if you did not receive an actual 1099-INT).  Your interest income will be ordinary in nature, which would make it a Box 1 entry.  Use the prevailing US Dollar - Indian Rupee exchange rate to convert the interest paid into US dollars for tax reporting purposes, if necessary.

The maturity of the bonds (and any gain or loss thereupon) is a separate issue from the interest income of the bonds.  For this, you will want to treat your matured (or sold or redeemed) bonds as the disposition of a capital asset.  This means that you will make an entry for your bonds in the Investment Income -> Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other section of TurboTax.  That will eventually get your bond disposition reported on Form 1040, Schedule D, where it belongs.

To navigate there in TurboTax, you can follow these steps:

  • Click on Federal Taxes
  • Click on Wages and Income
  • Click on I'll choose what I work on
  • Find the Investment Income sub-group
  • On the line for Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other, click the Start or Update button

For US tax purposes, treat the purchase price and redemption price of your Indian bond investment like this.  Translate the original purchase cost of the bonds (from Indian Rupees to US Dollars) at the then-prevailing 2011 exchange rate.  Translate the redemption price (from Indian Rupees to US Dollars) using the 2016 exchange rate.  If the Indian Rupee has depreciated (appreciated) against the US Dollar during that time, then you can report a US capital loss (gain) upon maturity / redemption of the bond. . . while at the same time paying US taxes on the interest earned on the same financial instrument.

Does that process make sense?

There are many places on the internet where you can look up such historical values for any currency pair, so that part should be fairly easy and purely mechanical.

Also, it is helpful to note that the foreign exchange conversion rules discussed here for purchase and disposition apply to any asset or other investment, and not just foreign bonds.  In other words, you'd apply them to stocks, bonds, partnership interests, real property, mortgage payments, etc.

This concept is a long-standing principle in international taxation, as well as international financial (non-tax) accounting; and it applies to taxpayers whose primary currency is the United States dollar.

It is discussed in layman's terms on the following official IRS.gov webpage (but without any corresponding legal citations):

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-currency-and-currency-exchange-rates

In particular, there is a relevant quote there that reads:

"Make all income tax determinations in your functional currency.  If your functional currency is the U.S. dollar, you must immediately translate into dollars all items of income, expense, etc. (including taxes), that you receive, pay, or accrue in a foreign currency and that will affect computation of your income tax.  Use the exchange rate prevailing when you receive, pay, or accrue the item."

Really, when you take a moment and think about it, the basic underlying principle is logical, and it makes good common sense.  To disaggregate foreign currency exchange rate fluctuations from price movements in the underlying assets would just add another layer of complication to an already cumbersome tax code.  By having such a straightforward foreign currency rule in place (i.e., translate all transactions completed in a foreign currency back to U.S. dollars at the moment in time they occur), it simply makes things easier.  This is true both for the taxpayer, and for the government (in their role as potential tax auditor).

Thank you again for asking this question, and good luck with your future investing.

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GeoffreyG
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I had some foreign (India) bonds which were purchased in 2011 and matured in 2016. I gained some money on maturity. Where should I report the same - under interests or under investment sales?

That is a very good question.  The answer to is that you should report your interest income earned on your Indian bonds as taxable interest on your United States tax return (through the Form 1099-INT interest income interview, even if you did not receive an actual 1099-INT).  Your interest income will be ordinary in nature, which would make it a Box 1 entry.  Use the prevailing US Dollar - Indian Rupee exchange rate to convert the interest paid into US dollars for tax reporting purposes, if necessary.

The maturity of the bonds (and any gain or loss thereupon) is a separate issue from the interest income of the bonds.  For this, you will want to treat your matured (or sold or redeemed) bonds as the disposition of a capital asset.  This means that you will make an entry for your bonds in the Investment Income -> Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other section of TurboTax.  That will eventually get your bond disposition reported on Form 1040, Schedule D, where it belongs.

To navigate there in TurboTax, you can follow these steps:

  • Click on Federal Taxes
  • Click on Wages and Income
  • Click on I'll choose what I work on
  • Find the Investment Income sub-group
  • On the line for Stocks, Mutual Funds, Bonds, Other, click the Start or Update button

For US tax purposes, treat the purchase price and redemption price of your Indian bond investment like this.  Translate the original purchase cost of the bonds (from Indian Rupees to US Dollars) at the then-prevailing 2011 exchange rate.  Translate the redemption price (from Indian Rupees to US Dollars) using the 2016 exchange rate.  If the Indian Rupee has depreciated (appreciated) against the US Dollar during that time, then you can report a US capital loss (gain) upon maturity / redemption of the bond. . . while at the same time paying US taxes on the interest earned on the same financial instrument.

Does that process make sense?

There are many places on the internet where you can look up such historical values for any currency pair, so that part should be fairly easy and purely mechanical.

Also, it is helpful to note that the foreign exchange conversion rules discussed here for purchase and disposition apply to any asset or other investment, and not just foreign bonds.  In other words, you'd apply them to stocks, bonds, partnership interests, real property, mortgage payments, etc.

This concept is a long-standing principle in international taxation, as well as international financial (non-tax) accounting; and it applies to taxpayers whose primary currency is the United States dollar.

It is discussed in layman's terms on the following official IRS.gov webpage (but without any corresponding legal citations):

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-currency-and-currency-exchange-rates

In particular, there is a relevant quote there that reads:

"Make all income tax determinations in your functional currency.  If your functional currency is the U.S. dollar, you must immediately translate into dollars all items of income, expense, etc. (including taxes), that you receive, pay, or accrue in a foreign currency and that will affect computation of your income tax.  Use the exchange rate prevailing when you receive, pay, or accrue the item."

Really, when you take a moment and think about it, the basic underlying principle is logical, and it makes good common sense.  To disaggregate foreign currency exchange rate fluctuations from price movements in the underlying assets would just add another layer of complication to an already cumbersome tax code.  By having such a straightforward foreign currency rule in place (i.e., translate all transactions completed in a foreign currency back to U.S. dollars at the moment in time they occur), it simply makes things easier.  This is true both for the taxpayer, and for the government (in their role as potential tax auditor).

Thank you again for asking this question, and good luck with your future investing.

I had some foreign (India) bonds which were purchased in 2011 and matured in 2016. I gained some money on maturity. Where should I report the same - under interests or under investment sales?

@GeoffreyG How would your answer change if the interest is earned from a savings account? Suppose you convert USD to rupees and earn 20% interest, but at the same time rupee is devalued 20% against the USD, so at the end of the year there is 20% interest income which is completely neutralized by 20% depreciation of the rupee, so there is no net income in USD terms.

 

In this case we pay the tax on interest and ignore the loss due depreciated rupee?

 

 

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